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23 hours ago, manxie49 said:

Thanks Stu, never heard of JIS screw drivers, I'm just going to have a read up on them now.  They will be getting used on the bikes yes, so I want the right gear 👍

+1 on the JIS screwdrivers, they make a surprising amount of difference despite looking similar to Phillips.

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Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, S-Westerly said:

Interesting but why? I'd not have thought they'd hazard the water?

The neon as used to check for a live circuit does it by connecting a live circuit to earth via your body to light the neon. To limit the current to a “safe” value there is a register in the circuit. Resistors could fail short circuit ( not usual)  and then you would get a shock between live and earth, with possible fatal result. 
if the resistor fails open circuit you would think the circuit is dead.
as @dynax says.

so it’s a H&S thing.

also they are not guaranteed to work as it is relying on you to complete the circuit. If you wear good rubber soled shoes you are insulated and so would give a “dead” indication. So you could be working on a live circuit believing it to be dead. Ask me how I know. 🙄
these days you have to use a dedicated live circuit tester and it most be checked on a known live circuit before using.

 

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Posted
57 minutes ago, JRH said:

The neon as used to check for a live circuit does it by connecting a live circuit to earth via your body to light the neon. To limit the current to a “safe” value there is a register in the circuit. Resistors could fail short circuit ( not usual)  and then you would get a shock between live and earth, with possible fatal result. 
if the resistor fails open circuit you would think the circuit is dead.
as @dynax says.

so it’s a H&S thing.

also they are not guaranteed to work as it is relying on you to complete the circuit. If you wear good rubber soled shoes you are insulated and so would give a “dead” indication. So you could be working on a live circuit believing it to be dead. Ask me how I know. 🙄
these days you have to use a dedicated live circuit tester and it most be checked on a known live circuit before using.

 

Dear God. I can see why they'd be banned! All our circuit testing is done with meters and it's forbidden to work on a live circuit. Locked out / tagged out.

Posted
11 minutes ago, husoi said:

About JIS screwdrivers.

Maybe you want to take a look at this promotion :thumb: 

JIS screwdriver set

Sealey... no.

 

£14.00 or actually £11.67 for 4.  or £2.91 each. No.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Gerontious said:

Sealey... no.

 

£14.00 or actually £11.67 for 4.  or £2.91 each. No.

I think is worth it just for the review alone 😂

 

"Superb Screwdriver set


My husband let slip that these would be perfect for him as they are brilliant for working on Japanese motorbikes. And as he is doing one up I thought that I would surprise him by getting them as one of his Christmas presents. He was over the moon. He said I was the perfect wife. It’s only taken 46 years for him to finally realise that"

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