Fender1515 Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 My BMW K1200s and I have been together for a quite a while, longer in fact, than the current lady in my life, as was remarked on recently. Out to day for a blatt n the glorious sunny stuff, happy days! At my destination I had a hell of a job getting he big lump parked up, just to clarify, that's the bike I am referring too. On route home, I am aware, i very rarely wind her up over 4k rpm, apart from embarrassing incidents pulling hill start wheelies! So It stated me thinking, do I really need 1,200 cc and 160 bhp and if so why. The why, I love not having to mess with chains It is for me a comfy ride I love the torque, such an easy/lazy bike to ride, The bike ride is very stable and predictable Mechanically the bike has been and is very sorted I totally love the engine braking, must be saving £1,000's on break pads and disks When her-self gets on tback, I hardly notice it, with the intercom turned off Why not She does glug fuel A big lump to move about I can see my-self riding for longer with a smaller, lighter bike We are both getting on a bit A new bike project is most always fun But what would I get, given what I like, any thoughts folks? 1 Quote
Capt Sisko Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 57 minutes ago, Fender1515 said: My BMW K1200s and I have been together for a quite a while, longer in fact, than the current lady in my life, as was remarked on recently. I once pointed out to my wife that I've put up with her for longer than her mother did. Then I ducked! 4 Quote
Simon Davey Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 A nice cruiser that does it all below 5k. A big twin like a HD, would be comfy, and maybe better on fuel? Quote
husoi Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 52 minutes ago, Capt Sisko said: I once pointed out to my wife that I've put up with her for longer than her mother did. Then I ducked! How long did you stay in the dog's house? 1 Quote
bonio Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 You almost certainly need a Guzzi. Or an Indian - an FTR p'raps? 1 Quote
RideWithStyles Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 (edited) 600-800cc bmw. Edited June 26, 2024 by RideWithStyles 1 Quote
keith1200rs Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 R1250R (or RS) - bags of torque, enough power, probably 50kg lighter than the K1200. I had a K1200RS and moved to the boxers. 1 Quote
Steve_M Posted June 26, 2024 Posted June 26, 2024 24 minutes ago, keith1200rs said: R1250R (or RS) - bags of torque, enough power, probably 50kg lighter than the K1200. I had a K1200RS and moved to the boxers. The R1200RS (as it was back then) was my initial choice of bike to replace the great lump (definitely describes the FJR1300) until it was suggested I also try the R1200GS. Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 On 26/06/2024 at 15:57, Fender1515 said: My BMW K1200s and I have been together for a quite a while, longer in fact, than the current lady in my life, as was remarked on recently. Out to day for a blatt n the glorious sunny stuff, happy days! At my destination I had a hell of a job getting he big lump parked up, just to clarify, that's the bike I am referring too. On route home, I am aware, i very rarely wind her up over 4k rpm, apart from embarrassing incidents pulling hill start wheelies! So It stated me thinking, do I really need 1,200 cc and 160 bhp and if so why. The why, I love not having to mess with chains It is for me a comfy ride I love the torque, such an easy/lazy bike to ride, The bike ride is very stable and predictable Mechanically the bike has been and is very sorted I totally love the engine braking, must be saving £1,000's on break pads and disks When her-self gets on tback, I hardly notice it, with the intercom turned off Why not She does glug fuel A big lump to move about I can see my-self riding for longer with a smaller, lighter bike We are both getting on a bit A new bike project is most always fun But what would I get, given what I like, any thoughts folks? Apart from having a chain the bike you are describing is a Triumph Bobber. With a CoC Customs sprung seat mod. 1200 engine but it's their high torque tune so big and lazy when bimbling around, but plenty of instant grunt when overtaking. Keep it between 3 to 4k and it pulls like a train. Huge amount of engine braking. Even ridden like you stole it will get you 60mpg. Low centre of gravity and it handles much better than the looks suggest. Stock suspension is pretty basic especially the tiny rear shock. The CoC sprung seat is about £150 and transforms comfort. Single seat and as built no luggage capacity though you can add panniers if you want to. If you want a pillion go for the Speedmaster version. 1 Quote
RideWithStyles Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 But your still just looking at one aspect of what is being asked for - a power aspect which the person isn’t really interested in now - wants to lighten and small down so just going down a cap or two in the same bike this person has been happy with for some long would be the sensible option. Quote
Phil1 Posted July 2, 2024 Posted July 2, 2024 I can't really add anything to this thread, but could a mod/admin sort the title out Quote
Fender1515 Posted July 2, 2024 Author Posted July 2, 2024 On 30/06/2024 at 22:17, RideWithStyles said: But your still just looking at one aspect of what is being asked for - a power aspect which the person isn’t really interested in now - wants to lighten and small down so just going down a cap or two in the same bike this person has been happy with for some long would be the sensible option. Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted July 2, 2024 Posted July 2, 2024 (edited) On 30/06/2024 at 22:17, RideWithStyles said: But your still just looking at one aspect of what is being asked for - a power aspect which the person isn’t really interested in now - wants to lighten and small down so just going down a cap or two in the same bike this person has been happy with for some long would be the sensible option. The op wants a number of things: Comfy Torque without needing huge hp numbers Predictable handling Engine braking Better fuel consumption Easier to move about Smaller & lighter Easier to live with So from my experience the Bobber ticks all those boxes. That's more than just one aspect of what the OP is looking for. Add a pillion and it's the Speedmaster version. There's another aspect for you. Edited July 2, 2024 by Mississippi Bullfrog 1 Quote
RideWithStyles Posted July 2, 2024 Posted July 2, 2024 250kg so not light, if no lighter than current. chain driven. the ridiculous pillion seat bar a modern sports bike, not exactly pillion inspired plus additional cost and subjective comfort for the pillion. luggage is restricted at best. have you asked how tall they are, short or long legged/armed? Would they be scrunched or is it a stretch to the bars/pegs? do they want to sit really low down with legs forward? do they really want to change from a brand they know very well and happy with? Triumph is good quite trust worthy brand around while I have owned one and happy with it but it’s not for everyone. best fuel economy, efficiency, wear, confidence, cost and other benefits is instant with smaller capacity. . Quote
AstronautNinja Posted July 4, 2024 Posted July 4, 2024 Whats thid fuel economy people speak of? I'm used to 20mpg in the car at best........ You bike guys habve it easy with these 30+ mpg bikes. I'm told mine should do 40 ish..... I haven't seen 40 mpg since the 90's 1 Quote
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