Popular Post Davidtav Posted April 3 Popular Post Posted April 3 So I currently keep my boat in a marina. And it is very convenient. But the costs are increasing and becoming difficult to justify. To myself. I don’t have anyone else to answer to. And since actually moving to Scotland I thought it would be good to have the boat nearer my property. So anyway I have had a mooring laid this week. Two train wheels and lots of chain. And a buoy. Quite excited to move the boat to it … yeah I get that not many folks are interested in boats stuff. Sorry about that! 10 Quote
Fiddlesticks Posted April 3 Posted April 3 My next thing after the house move - learn to sail. Curious as to how you go about getting your own swinging mooring installed? Quote
Davidtav Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 Well I joined a local boat club. And they use a mooring contractor. And the mooring company sent me a pic of the mooring before they dropped it. Interesting actually. You can see the two train wheels. I think they will sink into the mud. … if you wonder how much that cost it was £1600. Which I thought was ok actually 4 Quote
S-Westerly Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Given I was spending over 3 grand a year for marina fees 9 years ago a one off £1600 sounds like a winner. One of the reasons I sold mine and it wasn't huge - 10.5 m. 2 Quote
Davidtav Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 Absolutely. It is approaching £5k annually where I’m currently berthed. And difficult to justify Quote
S-Westerly Posted April 3 Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, Davidtav said: Absolutely. It is approaching £5k annually where I’m currently berthed. And difficult to justify We kept ours in Bangor Northern Ireland. Looked at one of the Clyde marinas but even then they were about £1500 more than we were paying. Used to sail the Clyde quite a lot especially in from October through to April. In the summer months tended to go up the West Coast and the Isles. Great fun. 1 Quote
Davidtav Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 Yeah. I do love the boat. But since Covid for some reason prices have gone stratospheric. I’m not looking forward to having to go out to my boat on a dinghy. But if I’m honest the option is to get rid of the boat. I don’t really want to do that either 1 Quote
Davidtav Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 Here’s a pic of my boat. Keeps me paying those bills lol… sorry to Stu. I know you don’t like sailing posts 4 Quote
Stu Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 hours ago, Davidtav said: sorry to Stu. I know you don’t like sailing posts Not sure where you got that from It's general chat so talk about what you like in here Do you have to swim to it? Get a lift? or row? Quote
Davidtav Posted April 3 Author Posted April 3 41 minutes ago, Stu said: Not sure where you got that from It's general chat so talk about what you like in here Do you have to swim to it? Get a lift? or row? Yeah you have to do any of those things 1 Quote
bud Posted April 3 Posted April 3 That's got to be a great investment getting your own mooring. And if it means continuing with a hobby you love. It's funny there are boats moored in the estuary near us. I've hardly seen any move in the 7 years I've lived here. 1 Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted April 4 Posted April 4 British Rail regret to announce the cancellation of the 7.15 service to Upper Pilsham due to some bugger nicking the wheels. 1 6 Quote
Grumpy Old Git Posted April 4 Posted April 4 10 hours ago, bud said: That's got to be a great investment getting your own mooring. And if it means continuing with a hobby you love. It's funny there are boats moored in the estuary near us. I've hardly seen any move in the 7 years I've lived here. That is the same in many marinas and mooring fields - Must be rich folk. I'd happily take their craft off their hands FOC! I did not think Loch Gilphead was that muddy? 1 Quote
onesea Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) I have upheaval due with my mooring this year. All change. Presently pay £1000 for 10m in my local river (although that's set to go up by 50% in next few years). That's local rates after 12 year waiting list, I have had a mooring for over 20 years now. A Local marina would be £10k per year, marinas are milking it. To lift 10m boat in and out it's £500 plus storage and cradle. So approx £700. You can hire a crane for the morning for less than half that The cost of stopping overnight in a port is £5 a meter so £50 a night. I enjoy sailing so tend just not to stop or anchor. However the latest scam is to charge for anchoring and close anchorages due to sea grass, oysters or seahorses (If there was sea grass you wouldn't anchor as it's not good holding). In Torbay closing the anchorages is sponsored by the local marinas. Boating is big business, marina groups have destroyed the south coast and are now moving to Scotland. ABP in the Clyde are coming up with some new imaginative charges for pleasure boaters. They are doing similar in Southampton waters. Good luck as a swinger @Davidtav, it has it's benifits and draw backs. Edited April 4 by onesea 2 Quote
S-Westerly Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Swinger? You may want to rephrase that unless you know something different? 4 Quote
Old-codger Posted April 4 Posted April 4 Good luck as a swinger @Davidtav, it has it's benifits and draw backs. Well this thread has taken a turn I wasnt expecting, its suddenly gone to the top of my watch list. Who knew mucking about in boats could be such fun, I blame it all on Howards Way. ( one for the youngsters to look up ) 3 Quote
Davidtav Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 I have been on a mooring previously. So I am aware of the drawbacks. … it was in Essex. Which definitely is muddy and the anchors sunk into the mud. You might be right GOG that it won’t be quite as muddy here. Not sure. … I actually lived on my boat full time for a few years and only went into marinas occasionally to charge the batteries etc. I just anchored in various places and had a dinghy to get ashore. And a folding bike. 3 Quote
Davidtav Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 I would definitely live on the boat again and travel around. That is the plan really. There are some amazing places to explore on the West of Scotland. … I wouldn’t do it full time again though. Not having an address can cause issues with registering for health services, banking etc. It did destroy my credit rating for a few years. And that was why I bought property again in honesty. Stu asked how I get ashore? This is the setup for getting ashore. 2 Quote
Tinkicker Posted April 4 Posted April 4 (edited) As you say, marina fees are getting well out of hand. In 2007 we dipped our 22ft binliner into the waters of the river ouse at naburn marina York. Cost was around £850 plus the vat. By 2012, it had gone up to over £2k plus the vat. Meanwhile, they were busily building new shower blocks and parking for caravans and we were paying for it. The smaller boats as noted, were well attended on a weekend, the larger ones, your 40ft Princesses and Fairline Targas nope, never saw anyone on them, yet they were kept valeted and kept well by the marina staff. I suspect they were corporate tax avoidence devices, under the guise of " hospitallity". Naburn, although a delightfully picturesque marina got far too expensive and the less expensive boats started moving out as did we, we ended up in the very industrial " timber yard" on the Aire and Calder, where the fees started at £800 per year. Then the newer, bigger boats started arriving... And the mooring fees starting rising faster and faster, and the winter lift out, hull insurance, river licence, and the annual maintenance... By 2015 we had had enough, it was costing us over the year, the equivalent of £500 per night for every night we spent on Moonie. She had to go.. I admit, I shed a tear when I walked away from her. My heart grieved, but my head danced.. Still miss it sometimes. I do not miss the 4 mpg that I was getting from that chevy V6 motor at 6kts however... Edited April 4 by Tinkicker 4 Quote
rennie Posted Saturday at 09:28 Posted Saturday at 09:28 We're at Shardlow marina at the moment in the campervan. There are quite a few people who appear to be living on their boats I'll upload some photos when I get on WiFi Quote
S-Westerly Posted Saturday at 10:37 Posted Saturday at 10:37 The last marina we kept our boat in Bangor NI didn't really like liveaboards although at one point maybe 20% of the bigger boats were. However a new marina opened up in Belfast city which was cheaper and welcoming to liveaboards so most shifted there. A lot of the folks were working in Belfast as well so it made sense in so many ways. I still regret selling the boat but I can charter one for 2 weeks for less than it was costing me to run. Plus the maintenance of course. 3 Quote
Davidtav Posted Saturday at 13:02 Author Posted Saturday at 13:02 2 hours ago, S-Westerly said: The last marina we kept our boat in Bangor NI didn't really like liveaboards although at one point maybe 20% of the bigger boats were. However a new marina opened up in Belfast city which was cheaper and welcoming to liveaboards so most shifted there. A lot of the folks were working in Belfast as well so it made sense in so many ways. I still regret selling the boat but I can charter one for 2 weeks for less than it was costing me to run. Plus the maintenance of course. If it flies or floats then it is cheaper to rent! … that is the abridged version of this saying for reasons of decency! 1 1 Quote
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