So which is better?

[Davidtav]

So I have bought a new car. A Peugeot 208 Allure. Yeah and I’ve kept my Mini Cooper because I feel attached to it. Yeah I know that’s daft. Anyway. In ten years which one is going to be worth the most ?  I think the value of the Mini Cooper is around £600 the price I paid for Peugeot is almost £20k. Interesting what you say

[Simon Davey]

Well, that's not easy.

There are lots of Mini Coopers about, obviously not so many soft tops, so, a little while to go yet.

I don't think modern cars such as the Peugeot have that "classic" look or feel, I can't even imagine it at 30 years old, but the Mini will always become more desirable as it ages. It may not be worth much now, or even in 10, but I reckon it it will in 20 years.

[Davidtav]

For what it’s worth my money would be on the Mini as well. I know it isn’t a proper Mini. Or even. First generaBMW one. But still quite significant. However I need a proper car to take me places and have bought the Peugeot 

[bud]

I don't think many modern cars will still be around in twenty years time. They are just full of electronics that won't be repairable, or obsolete. We are already seeing it now.

The mini for me.

[Bender]

Which is heavier, cause you will always get more for scrap with the heaviest.

[RideWithStyles]

Its a Peugeot….not even a old one with some charms for any driver yet had faults you could over look for the the positives, of the likes of 106 rallye and got, 205gti, 306gti6, 309 gti, 406 to name a few.
a modern one has non of the aspects of what made them successful and some passion to thrive a drivers car and wanted by a driver, directed by money men and share holders.

now they are not even skin deep likability, dulled and only aspirations to make the home landers buy into it just because its made at home, looks mildly better than the dog shit filled streets of Paris and the surrounding areas….

 

Family from both sides WERE real Peugeot lilkers so we know how much they have changed over the years so here’s a brief list. 106 rallye x3, 106 1.4 quick silver, 106 gti x1, 106 1.5diesil x1, 306 gti6x1, 309 1.6x1, 3008, 2008, some people carrier thing…to name a few. The only ones that had the lesser problems where the 106, 306,309….and they weren’t the best for reliability back then and comparing them to the modern ones would give them solid credentials.

and to name a few problems of the newer ones that range from unusable, mot failures (even before an mot is due) like complete failures of Speedo’s, dashes, ecu, door modules etc.

 

im not a mini fan in the slightest nor a betting man by any means but if I was to put money on it, the mini for aspects to be worth more and more likely to be dependable. 
 

Edited 21 hours ago by RideWithStyles

[S-Westerly]

My daughter had a Pug. It was a disaster.

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

The 208 is a PureTech wet belt engine. Keep the Mini. They don't have a great reputation in terms of build quality but it will outlast the 208. 

[Ian Frog]

Eek ! Wet belt engine.

Be very careful and try to maintain perfect warranty record, if it does go wrong you want to be in a position to demand complete replacement engine.

These things are a lottery it may equally last the distance but worth being cautious.

The Mini all day long for me.

Good luck.

Cheers

Ian

[Tinkicker]

Froggy is quite correct.  Wet belt engine..  Main dealer servicing only and on time as they know the correct oil ect has been used during the service.  If it fails during the warranty period then fine and dandy.

It is after the warranty period that service history really becomes important when / if the belt fails before its stated time and you are pursuing a "goodwill" claim towards the cost of repairs.

 

And never, ever ask for an engine flush at service time with a wet belt engine.  Seems there is a growing feeling in the trade that it can chemically damage the belt.  Engine flushes are BS and not required if the oil is changed regularly.

 

There is also growing evidence that a regular oil change using the correct oil reduces the chances of failure drastically and many of the failing belts are a product of a poor servicing regimen.  Many vehicles, serviced on or before time at main dealers are actually reaching their stated belt change interval.

 

Wet belts.  A product of the devil and idiotic politicians.

Edited 11 hours ago by Tinkicker

[Nick the wanderer]

I always think of the Top Gear Peugeot drivers. Sorry can't help it, it makes me laugh. 

[Davidtav]

Thanks for the comments. The Peugeot was pre registered and heavily discounted. Im obviously hoping it will be ok. Some good advice about looking after the engine in the replies. I will take heed and fingers crossed. 

[KiwiBob]

Wifey has a Peugeot 208!.. Due to the wet belt the oil strainer in the sump got clogged up at 25,000 miles which caused the engine to cut out due to low oil pressure! Its a common fault.

 

New belt required and sump off to clean the strainer .. Not cheap!

 

 

 

 

[Tinkicker]

1 hour ago, KiwiBob said:

Wifey has a Peugeot 208!.. Due to the wet belt the oil strainer in the sump got clogged up at 25,000 miles which caused the engine to cut out due to low oil pressure! Its a common fault.

 

New belt required and sump off to clean the strainer .. Not cheap!

 

I think it is stupid of the designers of these engines, not to include an access panel in the floor of the sump, directly under the strainer, so the strainer can be cleaned and checked for debris before the engine grenades.

1 hour ago, KiwiBob said:

 

 

 

 

 

[Ian Frog]

28 minutes ago, Tinkicker said:

 

I think it is stupid of the designers of these engines, not to include an access panel in the floor of the sump, directly under the strainer, so the strainer can be cleaned and checked for debris before the engine grenades.

 

You are absolutely correct an easy preventative measure probably not allowed due to cost (company run by accountants not engineers).

I didn`t mean to alarm the OP but it is a problem not enough people are aware of until problems occur ! I sincerely hope it doesn`t become an issue.

Cheers

Ian

[Bender]

Tbh removing a sump ain't that bad, it's the wet belt that should never have been invented