Gin Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 oh beefy....to file under WELL IT'S TOO BLOODY LATE NOW anything under 70nm you can just tighten by hand and it'll probably be fine Well I'm just a top notch moron You're not at all.. We all f**k up at one point or another! Only yesterday I dropped the fecking battery bolt down into my bike while trying to fit new optimate leads Ended up having to go to the local Tesco to buy one of those extendable "magnet on a stick" thingies just to try and get the wee git out!We all have off days, it's how we learn.. Hope this gets fixed soon and just chalk it up to experience x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Only yesterday I dropped the fecking battery bolt down into my bike while trying to fit new optimate leads Ended up having to go to the local Tesco to buy one of those extendable "magnet on a stick" thingies just to try and get the wee git out!We all have off days, it's how we learn.. Hope this gets fixed soon and just chalk it up to experience xI did the battery bolt just one just last week, only I was by the side of the road and there no option but to try to grab hold of it: the 3rd and 4th finger tips did the job in the end. What was nice that some random AA man who was passing stopped and asked me if I needed help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_W Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I dropped a fairing screw into my old thundercat when changing the screen. Never found where that one went and no amount of magnetic wand retrieved. I assume it fell out while riding in the end or it is still lodged in there.I also over tightened the clamp for a link pipe once. First I knew the clamp went ping.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 We have all done stupid shit! My list is too long to mention! I have cracked a sump only a lot worse than yours I have also dropped a battery bolt and trying to get it out caused the bike to lay against a house trapping me between it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 We have all done stupid shit! My list is too long to mention! I have cracked a sump only a lot worse than yours I have also dropped a battery bolt and trying to get it out caused the bike to lay against a house trapping me between it Well it does make me feel better, I'm sure you can laugh about it now .I shit myself when I checked it tonight - it had lost some oil as I expected but there was lots what I thought was oil around my new gasket. I thought I'd cocked that up some how until I realised I layered the ACF50 on thick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Don't use chemical metal. It doesn't withstand the temperature needed on engine repairs. It's also not as strong as;JB Weld. Use that. Once you've put some on and sanded it down, it will be a permanent repair. Drain the oil overnight before attempting. It takes 24hrs to set properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Thanks Phil I hadnt noticed, the araldite only does up to 60! Just ordered some JB weld . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Andddd I took all the thread with it too, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Lol, the public shouldn't be trusted with torque wrenches!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Shit! its not the end of the world though you could get the crack welded and drill and tap the sump and fit a larger bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Shit! its not the end of the world though you could get the crack welded and drill and tap the sump and fit a larger bolt Can I JB weld that valve Mr Fro mentioned in place? I can still screw the plug in and it grips, it's obviously just shit with just a plug in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Lol, the public shouldn't be trusted with torque wrenches!! I'm never using one again .It was 100% set right, I triple checked after I cracked the f**ker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I don't see why not but you will need a good clean area before you screw it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RantMachine Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Damn, Beefy... Just... Damn. That is some shit luck. Hope you get it sorted without too much misery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggs Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 there's no fixing that beefy the ONLY THING you can do is get your DAS and buy an R6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 there's no fixing that beefy the ONLY THING you can do is get your DAS and buy an R6 I know, I told my dad I wanna sell it and fund my DAS but I don't have the heart to pass this problem on to some poor learner. I'm gonna fix it up (probably a bodge) and keep saving for the DAS .I'm gonna try RTV sealing a plug in to keep me going for now and check to see if it works its way loose. I'm still going to JBweld the crack up on the outside at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 right, so lets talk about the best way to bodge it with JB weld...If it was me i would drill a small hole down the crack so i could pump the JBweld into clean metal and hope it oozed into both sides of the crack.Once thats set, i would grind a small V in the outside of the crack, fill that with JB weld and grind it back so its flush.Then JBWed the new oil drain plug into place - job done.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 right, so lets talk about the best way to bodge it with JB weld...If it was me i would drill a small hole down the crack so i could pump the JBweld into clean metal and hope it oozed into both sides of the crack.Once thats set, i would grind a small V in the outside of the crack, fill that with JB weld and grind it back so its flush.Then JBWed the new oil drain plug into place - job done..It is thin cast aluminuim ..if you keep playing with it especially with grinders it will just crumble and you are screwed . If its that bad now get a professional to weld and insert a helicoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigcraft Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Ditto with TimRSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Yep, need to be careful, but slapping JB weld on the outside of the crack won't achieve much and will likely crack off with temperature changes.Since we're talking bodge jobs, loads of JB weld inside to bond the drain plug would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RantMachine Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 +1 pay a professional to sort it if it's that bad. Don't tempt fate twice, Beefy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 +1 pay a professional to sort it if it's that bad. Don't tempt fate twice, Beefy Try your hand at tig welding. Its easy enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RantMachine Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 +1 pay a professional to sort it if it's that bad. Don't tempt fate twice, Beefy Try your hand at tig welding. Its easy enough Have you met Beefy?http://themotorbikeforum.co.uk/download/file.php?id=14476Or me, for that matter?http://www.themotorbikeforum.co.uk/download/file.php?id=10964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigcraft Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 On to a more realistic approach, if you talented enough, short of having it TIG welded you can go for the Lumiweld option. Unlike the other 'chemical' ideas Lumiweld is an aluminium solder that looks like the parent metal and is brilliant for the likes of trials bike crank cases. It's a low heat repair and very successful. Failing that and using adhesive repair pastes I've found no matter how clean and chemically washed the crack is, it will continue to seep as oil products find cracks like water always finds the lowest levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Ok so im gonna get a fitting made at work to take a standard plug that screws into the sump. Im gonna seal it in with JB weld like I was going to with the drain valve. Its cheap but essentially the same idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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