leener Posted September 15, 2017 Posted September 15, 2017 Because I ride this Triumph every day, around 100 miles. It's been getting pretty cold lately, so I wanted to buy some. Somebody has some second hand ones on ebay, came off another RS model... They wired them onto the battery, by the looks of the wiring. I had some before, about 10 years ago on my GPZ500, but used to keep forgetting to turn them off .Is there any reason why I can't just shove the wires into the fuse box, or into the ignition? Quote
Tango Posted September 15, 2017 Posted September 15, 2017 I think you'd be better off running them through a relay which is controlled by the ignition circuit.....less chance of leaving them on and draining the battery.....and less chance of overloading one of the other circuits..... Quote
leener Posted September 15, 2017 Author Posted September 15, 2017 Was just thinking that a relay might be better option.These are the grips:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-triumph-sprint-st-955i-heated-grips-/232461713037?hash=item361fcc3e8d:g:5IEAAOSwcrxZdiAWAnd I have an electrical diagram... I wonder if there is a "heated handlebar grip connection" on my bike... On page 404/405, item 55 . I'll just go check...http://www.nirvana-motorcycles.com/Triumph%20Sprint%20ST%20RS%20955%20Service%20Manual%201999.pdfJust checked and fragged if I know where it is. Just got oil and dirt on me hands now, and I'm in the office. I'll have a look tomorrow when I get the toolkit out. At this rate, its looking like I need to go for a relay. Quote
Joe85 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 I'm getting some heated gloves this year.Grips are alright for palms but do naff all for fingers. Quote
Martyn850 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 I have some Oxford ones. You wire them straight to the battery and the control unit can tell when the bike is running or not. So it switches itself off after a couple of mins when the bikes not running. Quote
fastbob Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 I'm getting some heated gloves this year.Grips are alright for palms but do naff all for fingers. Good luck with that, when I was in the bike accessories business we had nothing but trouble with heated gloves. We sold a high end brand the name of which escapes me but I think almost every pair was returned knackered sooner or later. Waistcoats and socks were equally troublesome, I think the heating elements just weren't flexible enough to withstand everyday stresses. Quote
Chrissb6 Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Heated grips are a must for winter riding, well that's my call l feel they should be a standard fit for all northern European bikes.As said, far better to have to have the power supply switch via the ignition switch than direct to the battery.I've also gone one step further and fitted heated seats to the Busa. Have to say what a massive difference it's made to both rider and passenger comfort. The main battle riding through the winter is keeping yourself warm and dry, this is a area of riding a bike through winter that you cannot compromise. Quote
Tankbag Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 I'm getting some heated gloves this year.Grips are alright for palms but do naff all for fingers. Good luck with that, when I was in the bike accessories business we had nothing but trouble with heated gloves. We sold a high end brand the name of which escapes me but I think almost every pair was returned knackered sooner or later. Waistcoats and socks were equally troublesome, I think the heating elements just weren't flexible enough to withstand everyday stresses. So far, touchwood, this is the 2nd winter for my RST heated gloves with no problems 🖒 Quote
onesea Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 I am looking at similar, I have had Oxford and they are good and hot. When I bought my Trophy I fitted these as the control is on the grip which suited the bike.https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ryde-Variable-Temperature-Heated-Motorcycle/dp/B00CJD1PRI/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8They never got as warm as the Oxfords but my hands never really got cold. I think with the oxfords they got to hot and your hands sweated and then cooled.Sadly having mailed Ryde the response is "This item is currently out of stock and I cannot see any on order, however this may change." But these look similar and I am thinking of trying on my TDM as I was so impressed with the Ryde ones I they look Identical.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Heated-Grips-For-Motorbike-Bike-Handlebar-Hot-Warm-Hands-PK/331859959356?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D46150%26meid%3D30e488feefe24ec6af32b37f20d498bc%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D232461713037&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850 Quote
leener Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 So, I'm going to get this done tomorrow (weather permitting) and I have a novice plan.I am going to track down a 30a relay (which should still have on an old loom somewhere). So this is the plan... Am I on the right tracks? Quote
leener Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 I'll dump another fuse between the battery and the relay, just to be safe. Hopefully won't rain too much tomorrow when I get round to doing this shizzle. Quote
Pie man Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Heated grips The wife and I have Keis heated gilets, had them for years. In the winter months I use mine daily when commuting. One of the best pieces of kit I bought. Quote
Joeman Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 test.png A single 30amp relay would be enough, but a second won't hurt.Put the main fuse as close to the battery as possible. Quote
leener Posted September 23, 2017 Author Posted September 23, 2017 Balls... I got the wrong grips. Yep. They off the old triumph with a single cable for throttle. Guess how many mine has?Ordered another set, brand new this time, for my bike. If anyone wants some old hats grips off a triumph sprint from pre 2003, let me know. I'm not bothering to chop them to bits to get the goods out. Maybe I'll test them on the spare battery later. When it all turns up, I'm going to construct a box to contain a relay, a 15a fuse to the relay, and a few more fuses for the other instruments. I need the grips, a camera (for insurance), and a phone charger (just in case). It'll be a busy day when I eventually get all the bits in. Need to find who sells automotive relays. Quote
Stu Posted September 23, 2017 Posted September 23, 2017 [mention]leener[/mention] what about one of these? https://www.themotorbikeforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=59453 Quote
leener Posted September 24, 2017 Author Posted September 24, 2017 Cheers! Exactly the sort of circuit I need. I already have fused relays on the way, but I have the rest of the bits to make something almost identical. I'll copy this one Quote
Joeman Posted September 24, 2017 Posted September 24, 2017 I've got two of those, both unused. They sent me one and the connectors were round the wrong way so they sent me a second. Not fitted either of them yet! Quote
leener Posted September 25, 2017 Author Posted September 25, 2017 I've got two of those, both unused. They sent me one and the connectors were round the wrong way so they sent me a second. Not fitted either of them yet! Oh, dear. I wonder how they go about making them.The circuit looks very simple. So my plan is to make my own version, with some adaptations. Hopefully with being a software dev, I might have enough of a logical brain to construct something worth producing a lot of to sell online. Knowing my luck, a load would come back complaining of blown fuses, faulty relays, burning bikes, and such. But, I'm happy to give it a go Quote
Joeman Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Yeah, easy enough to make your own version. I thought about producing them and selling them but like you, I'm a software guy, and this is very much hardware so not something I'd want to sell and deal with the idiotic customer complaints..I made my own version, there is a thread here somewhere about it. It works well enough which is why I still have unused ones in my garage. Quote
leener Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 Yeah, easy enough to make your own version. I thought about producing them and selling them but like you, I'm a software guy, and this is very much hardware so not something I'd want to sell and deal with the idiotic customer complaints..I made my own version, there is a thread here somewhere about it. It works well enough which is why I still have unused ones in my garage. I couldn't deal with all the hassle of dealing with people. I used to sell on eBay and the amount of hassle, and how terrible the system is. These days, customers can complain about nothing and get everything for free. I'm quite happy sitting down and coding away.The 30a relays are here, my new grips arrived (with a thermostat control), my USB sockets, and just need a few connectors, crimping tool, and decent tape. Just had a "yellow warning" from the MET office for Sunday. Yellow showers all round, this weekend. Quote
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