Mickly Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 It takes all sort eh. There is not a circle I hang around in where casual mysogyny would not be called out if in real life. It’s not clever or funny. I don’t usually bother to respond to six because I assume that is the game he is playing. Fishing for outrage and I cannot be bothered. That said the idea that someone finding mysogyny unacceptable should be cause for ridicule does reflect poorly on some of you. They may quite well call it out, but would they storm off vowing never to return while everyone sagely nods their head and say ‘quite right too’ ... I think not !
MarkW Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 There are plenty of opinions posted on here that I disagree with - sometimes strongly so - but the only thing I genuinely find offensive is the misspelling and illiteracy.
Muttly Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 It takes all sort eh. There is not a circle I hang around in where casual mysogyny would not be called out if in real life. It’s not clever or funny. I don’t usually bother to respond to six because I assume that is the game he is playing. Fishing for outrage and I cannot be bothered. That said the idea that someone finding mysogyny unacceptable should be cause for ridicule does reflect poorly on some of you. They may quite well call it out, but would they storm off vowing never to return while everyone sagely nods their head and say ‘quite right too’ ... I think not ! I don’t know whether they would or not. I have left places and called stuff out. I have also stayed. One left me feeling ashamed and the other probably made no difference to the other people but at least I was not complicit.I have met [mention]Speedy23[/mention] he was generous with his time and seemed a nice fella. I see nothing wrong with his actions.
NeilM Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Surely this is the whole point.Only say stuff on internet you would say to a person's face.Simple.Would I call [mention]Six30[/mention] a dick to his face. Yes.Would he call me a northern monkey. Yes.A lot tho won't.
Bender Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Did have a huge reply but deleted it, I can't be arsed lol, I'm offended by all of you in equal measure just on the grounds of equality so I don't offend any one more than others your all
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 I am bored of it. I’ve politely wince smiled my way through more sexist crap than I can count because woe betide the woman who doesn’t take it as a joke. So conditioned to accept it as normal that even the women on the receiving end of it will pretend they’re cool with it or say “It’s ok I don’t mind” “They don’t mean it really” You should mind. Repeatedly putting someone down for no other reason than their gender is damaging and absurd. I’m very glad I don’t have daughters because they’d soon get worn down with the constant onslaught of “joke” “joke” “joke” telling them they’re rubbish or inferior in this way or that.Tolerating it is a depressing reflection of how some people (I could put the typical age and race and sex here but I’ll refrain) have no grasp or care for other people’s experiences or just how much b*llshit they have to deal with. Why should they? They’re just making a joke, if you take offence that’s your problem for being ‘sensitive’ or ‘a snowflake’ or any other insult to stop you explaining why you don’t find it funny.If I was in a pub and was the butt of crap sexist jokes I’d expect the other person to see I didn’t find them funny and stop because if the other person isn’t laughing and you continue it’s not a joke it’s bullying. If they did continue they’d automatically go in the ‘a*sehole’ category and I’d have no qualms about taking them up on it. Which gets you shouted down for being a b*tch, lesbian, stupid cow, tart etc etc - there’s no reasoning with a*seholes.The only way to stop sexist a*rseholes being sexist a*seholes is the same way racist commentary stopped and that’s for everyone to make it known it’s not acceptable. I understand a lot of misogyny/misandry is either handed down from generation to generation or that quite often a man or woman has had a bad experience with the opposite sex but for crying out loud get a grip, you don’t write off entire sections of any other group based on a physical attribute do you?! The man who drove into my car had grey hair- now I hate everyone with grey hair. The men who have behaved most terribly in my direction have always been white so now I hate white men. That would be lunacy wouldn’t it.If you substituted the word woman for black in these ‘jokes’ would this still be acceptable? It would be a ban. The only way for people who hold on to prejudice to change is if voices condemn it and they are sidelined as ridiculous. At the moment almost everyone here is endorsing openly or with their silence because six is a laugh or they don’t want to get involved... or worse because they agree with the prejudice. I don’t blame [mention]Speedy23[/mention] at all, he was probably bored of it too but I wish he’d come back to offer an alternative to some of this crap. When a man calls out sexism against women it’s more heartening than I think they can possibly realise.When I joined this forum I avoided referring to being female because I’m so bored of dull sexist jokes and the assumptions about my capabilities and because I don’t want to get drawn into bollo like this. I just wanted to talk to other people who love motorbikes- male, female or other not get bogged down by twoddle that doesn’t belong here.
Joeman Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 I remember the early days of the internet.. much more fun when the easily offended didn't have the technical know-how to get online and bleet about being offended all the time.If you can't take banter, just disconnect. The majority of the internet is hardcore porn so what makes people think the rest of it won't offend their delicate sensibilities??
Hoggs Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 oh dear. Six is our pet forum troll and he generally says silly things but we all generally just ignore him not because we condone what he says but because we know underneath that big troll exterior is a small cuter troll and on occasion he's actually alright.Also he tends to fight off the actual trolls
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 If I was looking for hardcore porn I’d search for hardcore porn, if I was looking for sexist crap I’d look for sexist crap. If I was looking for a motorbike forum I’d look for a motorbike forum and hope not to find it full of porn or sexist crap.
Bender Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 If I was looking for hardcore porn I’d search for hardcore porn, if I was looking for sexist crap I’d look for sexist crap. If I was looking for a motorbike forum I’d look for a motorbike forum and hope not to find it full of porn or sexist crap. A sexism hardcore porn motorbike forum, why has nobody thought of this before[mention]Slowlycatchymonkey[/mention] I was typing a reply just like yours but lost the will to live lol
Hoggs Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 A sexism hardcore porn motorbike forum, why has nobody thought of this before ...I'm not prepared to search for it but I'll bet one exists. Probably run by six30
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 If I was looking for hardcore porn I’d search for hardcore porn, if I was looking for sexist crap I’d look for sexist crap. If I was looking for a motorbike forum I’d look for a motorbike forum and hope not to find it full of porn or sexist crap. A sexism hardcore porn motorbike forum, why has nobody thought of this before@Slowlycatchymonkey I was typing a reply just like yours but lost the will to live lol Yeah it is wearing but that’s the way the “your no fun, it’s just banter” crowd roll - they wear you down. I’m sure all the people on the receiving end racist homophobic jokes are just failing to recognise ‘banter’ too.“A sexism hardcore porn motorbike forum, why has nobody thought of this before” We should start one then at least all the undesirables would be in one place and TMBF could be a forum for all sorts of people who like motorbikes.
Muttly Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 I posted quoting Joe I thought but it is absent.In the post I tried to say that I am not delicate and I am not offended either. Racist language was commonly acceptable not very long ago, there are many inequalities which have been acceptable in recent memory. That did not make them right. Your justification as banter is weak, it is not the role of the oppressed to ‘grin and bear it’ it is the role of those perpetuating oppression to stop and by defending it you are one of the oppressors. It’s one thing one Wally saying unacceptable things, what is saddening is the defence of it by others.
MarkW Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Generally speaking, I'm happy for people to have the freedom to say what they like, and equally for me to have the freedom to hear it without having it censored on my behalf by someone else. I may dislike - even abhor - some of what I hear, but I'd object even more strongly to having someone else decide for me what I can and can't listen to.I am offended on a daily basis - usually when I turn on the news and see the latest subhuman atrocity the parties of God are inflicting on their fellow human beings elsewhere in the world - but I also recognise that merely being offended by something doesn't constitute any sort of argument.I get the impression that most of the fun being poked at Speedy is not for calling out something he found offensive, but for the flouncing that followed.
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 oh dear. Six is our pet forum troll and he generally says silly things but we all generally just ignore him not because we condone what he says but because we know underneath that big troll exterior is a small cuter troll and on occasion he's actually alright.Also he tends to fight off the actual trolls And there it is the- he doesn’t mean it really/he’s alright/don’t say anything about it/just ignore it response. Sexism is not ‘silly’ in the same way racism homophobia or any other prejudice isn’t ‘silly’ it’s simply damaging.
Hoggs Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 And there it is the- he doesn’t mean it really/he’s alright/don’t say anything about it/just ignore it response. Sexism is not ‘silly’ in the same way racism homophobia or any other prejudice isn’t ‘silly’ it’s simply damaging. I guess I just don't class six as sexist. Just a bit of a nob.
Six30 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) If I was looking for hardcore porn I’d search for hardcore porn, if I was looking for sexist crap I’d look for sexist crap. If I was looking for a motorbike forum I’d look for a motorbike forum and hope not to find it full of porn or sexist crap. I didn't know you was a women Edited December 17, 2018 by Six30
Joeman Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 If I was looking for hardcore porn I’d search for hardcore porn, if I was looking for sexist crap I’d look for sexist crap. If I was looking for a motorbike forum I’d look for a motorbike forum and hope not to find it full of porn or sexist crap. I didn't know you was a women Gloves are off now... Uh oh...
Six30 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 If I was looking for hardcore porn I’d search for hardcore porn, if I was looking for sexist crap I’d look for sexist crap. If I was looking for a motorbike forum I’d look for a motorbike forum and hope not to find it full of porn or sexist crap. I didn't know you was a women Gloves are off now... Uh oh... I'm running away and buggering off
Joeman Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 I didn't know you was a women Gloves are off now... Uh oh... I'm running away and buggering off You big girls blouse.
Six30 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 And there it is the- he doesn’t mean it really/he’s alright/don’t say anything about it/just ignore it response. Sexism is not ‘silly’ in the same way racism homophobia or any other prejudice isn’t ‘silly’ it’s simply damaging. I guess I just don't class six as sexist. Just a bit of a nob. Lucky I'm not easily offended .
Six30 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Gloves are off now... Uh oh... I'm running away and buggering off You big girls blouse. He said girl
Hoggs Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Lucky I'm not easily offended . I tried being nice about you but it made me unpopular so I joined the mob
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