S-Westerly Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Merry Christmas one and all and by whatever Gods, fantasy beings, (or in MarkW's case the rules of science) you pray to let's hope that 2021 is better than this! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Got the Stealth Beemer out for the first time in nearly two weeks due to the shit weather. Only out for an hour though! Don't let the blue skies fool you.......cos it was cold! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, James in Brum said: https://www.noradsanta.org Father Christmas paused part way through New Zealand deliveries to go to the international space station! My kids and I just watched. Not sure any of the Chinese deserve presents though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 C’mon Rich, it’s Christmas let’s be generous not xenophobic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, James in Brum said: C’mon Rich, it’s Christmas let’s be generous not xenophobic I agree James......surely at Xmas we can put aside the fact that they're responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, along with destroying the lives and livelihoods of millions? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, James in Brum said: C’mon Rich, it’s Christmas let’s be generous not xenophobic I was being generous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swagman Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, XTreme said: I agree James......surely at Xmas we can put aside the fact that they're responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, along with destroying the lives and livelihoods of millions? I still like a nice Chinese take out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, XTreme said: I agree James......surely at Xmas we can put aside the fact that they're responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, along with destroying the lives and livelihoods of millions? Which ones of ‘them’ are @XTreme is it all of ‘them’, is it the ones in power? Is it the poor people in the countryside? Is it all the male ones? Is it some of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, James in Brum said: Which ones of ‘them’ are @XTreme is it all of ‘them’, is it the ones in power? Is it the poor people in the countryside? Is it all the male ones? Is it some of them? The country as a whole is accountable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swagman Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, XTreme said: The country as a whole is accountable! Unfortunately they don’t have the luxury of voting the twats out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxie49 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Have a good one guys and gals, all the very best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swagman Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Just now, manxie49 said: Have a good one guys and gals, all the very best And you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Bollocks Are all brits accountable for what the tossers in power do? Are all Brits accountable for the tosspot moped gangs, the county lines drugs gangs, the mass sell off of public assets for too little, the corruption in awarding contracts? people should not be accountable for that over which they have no power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swagman Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Just now, James in Brum said: Bollocks Are all brits accountable for what the tossers in power do? Are all Brits accountable for the tosspot moped gangs, the county lines drugs gangs, the mass sell off of public assets for too little, the corruption in awarding contracts? people should not be accountable for that over which they have no power. Wow James do I sense anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, James in Brum said: Which ones of ‘them’ are @XTreme is it all of ‘them’, is it the ones in power? Is it the poor people in the countryside? Is it all the male ones? Is it some of them? The politburo or whatever Pres. Xi's rubber stampers are called, deserve nothing but opprobrium and a hearty round of abuse. The rest of the Chinese population has my deepest sympathy and that's about all I am willing to gift them at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, S-Westerly said: The politburo or whatever Pres. Xi's rubber stampers are called, deserve nothing but opprobrium and a hearty round of abuse. The rest of the Chinese population has my deepest sympathy and that's about all I am willing to gift them at the moment. That is considerably warmer than thinking all Chinese people are unworthy of Father Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Swagman said: Wow James do I sense anger. Yes, a bit. Casual xenophobia/racism and other bigotries are not okay. there is always the odd person saying such stuff , it is the defence of it by others that grates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Suspect poor old Father Christmas has been banned from Chinese airspace and his reindeer are likely to be shot down and sold in a wild meat market in Wuhan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, James in Brum said: Bollocks Are all brits accountable for what the tossers in power do? Are all Brits accountable for the tosspot moped gangs, the county lines drugs gangs, the mass sell off of public assets for too little, the corruption in awarding contracts? people should not be accountable for that over which they have no power. None of the examples you quoted are accountable for carnage on the scale that Covid has caused worldwide......and this is going to go on for years. Ultimately millions will die......so I really wouldn't expect people to feel much sympathy towards China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Stop depersonalising. It’s not China we are talking about it is the Chinese people. None of the stuff you normally post would lead me to believe that you would lump nearly 2 billion people all together as accountable like this. Given that by far the majority of the Chinese people have no say, as far as I understand it, and the Chinese government violently oppress those who disagree how is what you say reasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, James in Brum said: Stop depersonalising. It’s not China we are talking about it is the Chinese people. None of the stuff you normally post would lead me to believe that you would lump nearly 2 billion people all together as accountable like this. Given that by far the majority of the Chinese people have no say, as far as I understand it, and the Chinese government violently oppress those who disagree how is what you say reasonable? I get your point......but the fact remains that China (as an entity) has to own this shit! Now whether this virus emanated from Labs (and got released accidentally or deliberately)......or it's from the Live meat markets.....the buck stops with that country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I fully agree that those in power in China should be accountable. I think the idea it was lab created has been debunked by some virologists, but that said they should be accountable for their deceit at the start of and continuation of the disease, and for the shady business practices, and for the slavery of the Uighers and their genocide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, James in Brum said: Stop depersonalising. It’s not China we are talking about it is the Chinese people. None of the stuff you normally post would lead me to believe that you would lump nearly 2 billion people all together as accountable like this. Given that by far the majority of the Chinese people have no say, as far as I understand it, and the Chinese government violently oppress those who disagree how is what you say reasonable? does the government force them to eat live animals , do they force the wet/live markets on them ..... they need to change the way they live and they should be banned from travelling to any other country, not cause they are chinese cause they spread disease and virus . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swagman Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, James in Brum said: I fully agree that those in power in China should be accountable. I think the idea it was lab created has been debunked by some virologists, but that said they should be accountable for their deceit at the start of and continuation of the disease, and for the shady business practices, and for the slavery of the Uighers and their genocide. Chill out guys we don’t all have the same opinion on things and it won’t help anyone getting agitated by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymwitch Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 hours ago, bonio said: He needs to slow down a bit - still at work here! Hope to finish before the reindeer arrive. Im just starting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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