Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Not sure if I can be any more vague but I have noticed a noise , normally when freewheeling down drive or manually moving when engine is off but there is a knocking noise come from around the front sprocket area, however, i don't think its the actual front sprocket itself, sounds more like what it feeds in to. The chain sort of clicks and jumps up and down ever so slightly but it does this in time with the click/knocking noise. Difficult to explain. Chain is lubed.Has it up on centre stand earlier and moving the wheel by hand but It also happens when engine is running just not as noticeable because of the engine noise but obviously still there.Appreciate any help - thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Check chain adjustment Check chain for damages broken/seized links Check sprockets for hooked/broken teeth Checksprocket is still attached Check no foreign object is caught in casing ( small stone etc ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 are all the teeth on the the sprocket in tact and how loose is the chain ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 Sprocket teeth looks ok . There is movement in the chain but I don't think too much. I haven't adjusted it since I bought it. Just over 1000 miles done.Sprocket definitely still attached. I check this weekly after a previous breakdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 sounds like the chain poss knocking on the link pipe,try adjustment and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ok will try that once I find out how to adjust the chain. Not something I have done before but i need to know.Would it be ok for a 15 mile commute to work tomorrow? Could take the car, don't really want to but will if needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1st check if the chain runs over the link pipe to rule pipe to rule that out but would deffo try adjustment any way,as for riding it that's your call but if your not sure leave it until you nail the prob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I have FZ6 S2 it did similar with old chain and sprockets by the time I changed them they where well shot.... Check your chain adjustment I have Scotoiler and have to do mine every 1000 miles or so...If its FZ6 S2 its real easy to access front sprocket to have a look, 3 allan bolts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 1st check if the chain runs over the link pipe to rule pipe to rule that out but would deffo try adjustment any way,as for riding it that's your call but if your not sure leave it until you nail the prob Ok so first question - what/where is the link pipe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 I have FZ6 S2 it did similar with old chain and sprockets by the time I changed them they where well shot.... Check your chain adjustment I have Scotoiler and have to do mine every 1000 miles or so...If its FZ6 S2 its real easy to access front sprocket to have a look, 3 allan bolts... Its a 2004 FZ6, I have checked the front sprocket and looks ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 Pic to front sprocket is in Post 36https://themotorbikeforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=61678&start=30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_W Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Sounds like the chain is loose to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Well it looks in better condition than mine when I changed it Trying to think if mine still has that click when I roll it back, I really cannot say... Certainly the tone of it did change when the chain was loose.Front Cog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 The link pipe is the bit that connects your end can to the engine so if your can is on the right side then it won't be that if can on left side it's a poss,looking at that sprocket I,d change it and clean up all the gunk and shit from around it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 you could have a stiff link in the chain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 The link pipe is the bit that connects your end can to the engine so if your can is on the right side then it won't be that if can on left side it's a poss,looking at that sprocket I,d change it and clean up all the gunk and shit from around it Ah I see. the exhausts are under seat exhausts.That pic was a couple of months ago when I had other problems. Its looks a lot cleaner now and all the oily crap has been cleaned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 you could have a stiff link in the chain the noise is a continuous clicking though which speeds up the faster I spin the wheel, could that be one stiff link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 Just had another listen/look albeit not very well by torchlight but the noise definitely sounds around the inside the front sprocket area.also there is some play in the chain, how loose should it be. I ran the wheel pulling the chain tight with my finger and the noise didn't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 you could have a stiff link in the chain the noise is a continuous clicking though which speeds up the faster I spin the wheel, could that be one stiff link? Yeah a stiff link can give a slight click/knock as the wheel turns and cause the chain to jump a little the best way to check it to get it on a paddock stand or centre stand if it has one and slowly spin the wheel while watching the chain for any links that don't straighten back out as the chain comes around the sprocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 This is the only link which looks different and stands out to me.http://s800.photobucket.com/user/martash2009/media/IMG_20161218_192857519.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 I reckon there is a about 5cm of play in the chain, at its slackest point( next to the left foot peg) I can push it up far enough to touch the swing arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 you could have a stiff link in the chain the noise is a continuous clicking though which speeds up the faster I spin the wheel, could that be one stiff link? Yeah a stiff link can give a slight click/knock as the wheel turns and cause the chain to jump a little the best way to check it to get it on a paddock stand or centre stand if it has one and slowly spin the wheel while watching the chain for any links that don't straighten back out as the chain comes around the sprocket Ah I can see the chain jump a little, not a lot but it's there. will try that tomorrow after work. am I checking the chain as it comes around the front sprocket?also how do you fix a stiff link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) found a youtube link .this is exactly the noise im getting. same circumstances eg. on centre stand moving wheel by hand. Edited December 18, 2016 by Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 That link in the picture is the joining link......It looks like it's been riveted too much, which is stopping it from moving freely......and that'll definitely be what your problem is...... The only real answer is to remove that link and see if you can get another one and try fitting it again, but not so tight...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 you can check it around either the front or the rear Ideally you need a chain tool to move the pin on the link back and forth although depending on the age and condition of the chain it may need to be replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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