Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 you can check it around either the front or the rear Ideally you need a chain tool to move the pin on the link back and forth although depending on the age and condition of the chain it may need to be replaced Probably need to order me a chain tool then. I have no idea how old the chain is though.Is this just an annoying noise or should I not be riding the bike anymore??...which would be rubbish but obviously if its dangerous then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 without seeing it and knowing for sure if it is the chain it is hard to say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 The guy in the youtube clip suggests it was the type of front sprocket he was using Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralus Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Without wishing to hijack the thread, should you normally replace chain and both sprockets at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 It's not ideal, mate.....but I wouldn't say it was especially dangerous. .....but I'd sort it sooner rather than later..... You can check the condition of the chain and rear sprocket by seeing how far you can pull the chain away from the rear sprocket at the 3 o'clock position.....If the chain pulls away more than a couple of mm, then you probably need a new chain and sprocket set...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Without wishing to hijack the thread, should you normally replace chain and both sprockets at the same time? Yes they wear together and just replacing one can cause the other to wear prematurely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Without wishing to hijack the thread, should you normally replace chain and both sprockets at the same time?I would replace the chain and sprockets together.....The cost difference between just a chain and a chain and sprocket set is hardly worth just replacing the chain on its own IMHO..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 It's not ideal, mate.....but I wouldn't say it was especially dangerous. .....but I'd sort it sooner rather than later..... You can check the condition of the chain and rear sprocket by seeing how far you can pull the chain away from the rear sprocket at the 3 o'clock position.....If the chain pulls away more than a couple of mm, then you probably need a new chain and sprocket set...... Just tried, hard to move it at all really, certainly not more than a couple of mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 you could have a stiff link in the chain the noise is a continuous clicking though which speeds up the faster I spin the wheel, could that be one stiff link? Yeah a stiff link can give a slight click/knock as the wheel turns and cause the chain to jump a little the best way to check it to get it on a paddock stand or centre stand if it has one and slowly spin the wheel while watching the chain for any links that don't straighten back out as the chain comes around the sprocket Just checked all seem fine, the only 'odd' looking one is the master link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 OK. ...just sounds like they've over riveted the joining link then......see if you can get a replacement link......and a chain splitter/riveter tool..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 As a FZ6 owner if your chain can touch the swingarm underneath I would say its too slack.Then others would disagree.http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=13651.0Adjusting the chain is easy enough, I would suggest doing that before a ride. I would try manually straightening the link, if that's possible and rolling wheel round. If noise is reduced you know you are looking in right area. A little extra lube it might soften the link? If link is difficult/ impossible to straighten by hand then I would suggest new link and chain tool are more urgent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 The chain only touches at the slackest point.Any recommendations on a chain tool? seem to be quite a few on ebay but not sure of quality.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 The chain only touches at the slackest point.Any recommendations on a chain tool? seem to be quite a few on ebay but not sure of quality.Thanks You need one to push pints out? If it's over riveted it may be quite difficult, you may need to grind the heads off the problem pins before you push it out. I can't recommend any as the only ones I've used was at my last job and we made our own from left-over parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 The chain only touches at the slackest point.Any recommendations on a chain tool? seem to be quite a few on ebay but not sure of quality.Thanks I bought this one, could I recommend? It removed the pin with no grinding required, then I broke it riveting the heads. When I rode my bike to a mechanic down the road to finish it off he would not rivit it any more or I could end up with a tight link!So it did the job & broke (they sent me another as a replacement, without ANY fuss) and saved me time and money in the problem your having... Hard to say if I would recommend but at that price if you dont mind a wait IF it breaks its hard to knock.https://www.rydestore.com/ryde-motorcycle-chain-breaker-riveter-repair-kit.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Cheers will get one on order. now for the chain link, how do I know what size it is? I checked the chain but cant make out any lettering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Actually thinking about replacing the whole set - chain and sprockets. Would it be suitable for a novice to attempt. Looked at some youtube clips tonight and looks do able.Also looking at this set. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142139359994?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Actually thinking about replacing the whole set - chain and sprockets. Would it be suitable for a novice to attempt. Looked at some youtube clips tonight and looks do able.Also looking at this set. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142139359994?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT I did mine with the help of a friend, its easy enough to do but the front sprocket can get stuck on (on mine anyway). If you use a clip type split link all you need is a grinder to remove the old chain. I think the clip type are perfectly fine, but they are the cheaper option. I used to work for a place making chain and Id never heard of a clip failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Novice yes no issues my FZ6 S2 I did easy with this video....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BYq-dHYCg4Although I did not bother grinding, the tool just pushed the pin out without any effort. I figured as I had lots of links to try on I could afford to get it wrong once or twice...Just plan on a full day it should not take that long but you can always go for a ride with the spare time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 I did mine with the help of a friend, its easy enough to do but the front sprocket can get stuck on (on mine anyway). Ha, if only. Would have saved me a whole heap of trouble a couple of months back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Novice yes no issues my FZ6 S2 I did easy with this video....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BYq-dHYCg4Although I did not bother grinding, the tool just pushed the pin out without any effort. I figured as I had lots of links to try on I could afford to get it wrong once or twice...Just plan on a full day it should not take that long but you can always go for a ride with the spare time... Thanks will check the video later when not at work. I dont have a grinder so will have to rely on the chain tool doing it's job. i think the 530 size chain is correct for an FZ6, so will need to get that ordered also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I would have thought it would be a 525 to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 I would have thought it would be a 525 to be honest ok, I haven't been able to find out for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I would have thought it would be a 525 to be honest ok, I haven't been able to find out for sure I hadn't looked to be honest but majority of 600's are 525 I have just done a quick search and you are right they are a 530 on yours! Bit overkill if you ask me but hey ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I got one of these:http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/chain-sprocket-kits/bike/yamaha/2005/fz6-fazer/d-i-d-upgrade-chain-and-sprocket-kit-premium-x-ring-chain-gold-heavy-dutyAs I recall..If you don't have center stand (I dont) you will want paddock stand, lots of degreaser (although yours looks cleaner than mine :/ ) and Swarfega..If I can do it anyone can... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I dont have a grinder so will have to rely on the chain tool doing it's job.You don't need a grinder - I've done them before taking off the end of the rivet with a file. It takes a few mins but it works.Be careful if you try and push it out with the tool without taking the head off, the pins on the tool can bend or snap if you give it too much welly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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