Stu Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Be careful if you try and push it out with the tool without taking the head off, the pins on the tool can bend or snap if you give it too much welly! ThisMy mate decided to use his newly purchased chain tool to try and remove the chain and snapped the only pin! he had to go out and buy another plus a spare I showed him how to remove it with a grinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Be careful if you try and push it out with the tool without taking the head off, the pins on the tool can bend or snap if you give it too much welly! ThisMy mate decided to use his newly purchased chain tool to try and remove the chain and snapped the only pin! he had to go out and buy another plus a spare I showed him how to remove it with a grinder Looks like I can pick up a cheapish grinder with a metal cutting disc for about £20. Would that do the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 More than do the job do you not know anyone you can borrow one off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 More than do the job do you not know anyone you can borrow one off? Yes, quick call to my step dad and he has one I can borrow.So I have:Grinder to cut chaintools to remove front sprocket, rear sprocket and rear wheelchain and sprocket set (on order)chain tool and riveter for linking the chain togethertorque wrench for reassembly tightening as required.anything else I need? apart from a decent day to do it in of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 yes make sure you do things in the right order like remove the front sprocket nut before cutting the chain and an assistant may help to steady the bike and hold the brakes when removing the front sprocket nut ensure the new chain has a soft link and not a solid one A soft link has a hole in the centre of the link for the chain tool to go in to and to mushroom the link like this If the link is solid them you will not be able to mushroom the end and will more than likely break the chain tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142139359994?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AITThanks. is this a soft link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 from experience DID chains usually come with a soft link and it does say "(with a rivet type connecting link)" So I would assume it does You can only check it when it turns up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 excellent, thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 once you get the chain have a look at the link if it is solid then its the wrong one if it has a hole in the two pins then all is good to go they are cheap off ebay too and this is what it should look like http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D-I-D-Motorcycle-Drive-Chain-Hollow-Rivet-Link-530-VX-Gold-Black-/131826530419?hash=item1eb1793873:g:AwMAAOSwTdJXRVIa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Tub of paraffin for cleaning around the swingarm and sprocket housings ... get all the old gritty chain lube off so new chain has a good start in life ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 If you don't have much use for a grinder otherwise then consider putting the money into a Dremel - or one of the cheaper versions. It's the kind of thing you'll use time and time again all around the house so well worth having. I have a cordless Dremel which is brilliant for removing chain links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 IF you have the time I would not worry about buying a grinder until you have tried pressing the pin out... I took my time lining up the tool and it came out a breeze, I had a grinder but getting power to my garage was going to be difficult so it would mean pushing the bike 100m back and forth so i just tried it and it was not difficult...If you have not used a chain breaker this video might help...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vhZTQDx8i0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Very useful vid as I had no idea how to use it. I also thought you need to break the master link but it seems you can break any link.hopefully chain set should be here tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hmm reconnecting the new chain could prove tricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hmm reconnecting the new chain could prove trickyThats where I broke my tool, its surprisingly easy to over tighten it seems. I was lucky enough to have a couple of motorbike mechanics check my rivet out and say its fine...The chain i bought had specs for size of rivet when finished, I did not quite get there but trusted mechanics said it was fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hmm reconnecting the new chain could prove trickyThats where I broke my tool, its surprisingly easy to over tighten it seems. I was lucky enough to have a couple of motorbike mechanics check my rivet out and say its fine...The chain i bought had specs for size of rivet when finished, I did not quite get there but trusted mechanics said it was fine... Slowly and keep checking seems to be the way. I don't have anyone to check for me so I expect pics at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hmm reconnecting the new chain could prove trickyThats where I broke my tool, its surprisingly easy to over tighten it seems. I was lucky enough to have a couple of motorbike mechanics check my rivet out and say its fine...The chain i bought had specs for size of rivet when finished, I did not quite get there but trusted mechanics said it was fine... Slowly and keep checking seems to be the way. I don't have anyone to check for me so I expect pics at some point If you popped your approximate location on your profile, you might be surprised what offers of help you get.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 If you popped your approximate location on your profile, you might be surprised what offers of help you get....[/ Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 So chain has arrived. Here's the chain link:http://s800.photobucket.com/user/martash2009/media/IMG_20161223_142355098.jpg.html?o=1http://s800.photobucket.com/user/martash2009/media/IMG_20161223_142408220.jpg.html?o=0is that a soft link? I'm not sure of the difference.Also they have sent a different type of front sprocket. Should have been a JT brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I cannot help with sprocket brand... I bought from Demon Teaks as I trusted them to be ok . As for soft link to looks similar to the one I used..Although you are only 45 minutes away by bike, I am down in the New Forest not a million miles.If I was not tied up for christmas I would be asking when you are doing it any problems shout and I will see if I can come up to help.I have PM'd you, we will have to meet up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 So chain has arrived. Here's the chain link:http://s800.photobucket.com/user/martash2009/media/IMG_20161223_142355098.jpg.html?o=1http://s800.photobucket.com/user/martash2009/media/IMG_20161223_142408220.jpg.html?o=0is that a soft link? I'm not sure of the difference.Also they have sent a different type of front sprocket. Should have been a JT brand. What brand did they send? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Looks like a soft link to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 The packaging reads Hornet Sprockets.I also have a rubberised JT front sprocket from separate order which I was going to send back but I may just use it in place of the Hornet one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 Looks like a soft link to me Good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Stoat seeks Pig Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 Ok so mixed results today. I have been out there for hours...mostly enjoyable until the end when all kinds of things started go wrong.Started off checking the brake pads. Not much left on them but look quite easy to replace. Happy with that and enjoyed finding my way around the bike.Then off with the front sprocket nut and replaced with the rubberised front sprocket, removed back wheel, brake calliper and changed the rear sprocket. All that took me ages really but no real struggl. Then tried to get back wheel back on.....nightmare...I need about 4 pairs of hands and feet. eventually got it back on after much swearing.Now hear is my problem. Front sprocket nut - in the manual it tells me to set my torque wrench to 90nm. I set it correctly and started to tighten but all of a sudden the nut slipped and I've stripped the thread. I have another to use but worried about doing the same to this one. Light was starting to fade, i was getting stressed so I packed up for the day. I haven't even started the chain yet, just hope I don't have to remove the back wheel to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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