MikeHorton Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Really dont get the Chinese Motorcycle negativity , its a motorbike, seems strange when you look round the house and all the things that are made in China , including phones electrical goods etc Valid point indeed. And just because it's made in china isn't the whole picture. Lots of items are designed outside of china and sometimes assembled in other countries. I've been to the Mutt factory in Birmingham and they manufacture many of the parts in the UK taking off those that are not good enough for the salty UK winter roads. Mutt are on version 6 now of their bikes they admit it's been trial and error over 3 years.2k for a Chinese bike or double that for a rail season ticket it's a no brainer Quote
Mr Fro Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Valid point indeed. And just because it's made in china isn't the whole picture. Lots of items are designed outside of china and sometimes assembled in other countries. I've been to the Mutt factory in Birmingham and they manufacture many of the parts in the UK taking off those that are not good enough for the salty UK winter roads. Mutt are on version 6 now of their bikes they admit it's been trial and error over 3 years.2k for a Chinese bike or double that for a rail season ticket it's a no brainerBuilt in China, modified in Birmingham.I don't think it gets much worse than that does it? Quote
MikeHorton Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Valid point indeed. And just because it's made in china isn't the whole picture. Lots of items are designed outside of china and sometimes assembled in other countries. I've been to the Mutt factory in Birmingham and they manufacture many of the parts in the UK taking off those that are not good enough for the salty UK winter roads. Mutt are on version 6 now of their bikes they admit it's been trial and error over 3 years.2k for a Chinese bike or double that for a rail season ticket it's a no brainerBuilt in China, modified in Birmingham.I don't think it gets much worse than that does it? Keeps local people in jobs and off the dole queue. New company run by enthusiastic young people paying taxes has to be a positive, but hey we wouldn't be British if we were not criticising it Quote
Mr Fro Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Keeps local people in jobs and off the dole queue. New company run by enthusiastic young people paying taxes has to be a positive, but hey we wouldn't be British if we were not criticising it I think you're on the wrong forum if you can't take a joke mate. Quote
wrightjd95 Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 I own a KSR moto TW 125, brought it second hand from a neglectful owner. All I can say is they are excellent bikes! Nothing like your standard Chinese tat. Yes, you are correct - the parts are made in China, but you'll find a lot of "brands" are made in china too. The difference between the KSR moto bikes and fully Chinese brands is the standards they are produced at. KSR moto bikes are produced to "Quality Austria", European standards, and ISO standards there is all the documentation to prove it. I perform a lot of servicing on my own bikes and KSR is a joy to work on - they're well thought out and everything comes apart and goes back together nicely. The fasteners (bolts etc) are all made to standard and quality control is good. Sheered bolts and things like that just aren't a problem. The service manual is extensive and well written. What I would say though is because it is a small brand, part availability is not good on the open market. You'll need a dealer hookup, or to be in contact with the UK distributor (if anybody wants I can put you in contact). What I suggest for most people is to stick to a specialist dealer and you'll have no problems at all. KSR moto is really trying to prove itself self so will honor warranties at the drop of a hat. An acquaintance of mine kept crashing his bike, yet still got it repaired under warranty for all of his crashes - that's how far they'll go.So I highly recommend KSR moto. They deserve more credit, it's hard to break through as a new guy in such a difficult market. Excellent value for money. Quote
RantMachine Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 I'd be far more inclined to believe the "parts made in China, assembled in Europe" marketing nonsense from these companies if they were actually designing the bikes themselves then just outsourcing manufacturing of the components to China, as opposed to the reality of it where they're buying Chinese bike parts, as designed by a Chinese manufacturer, to assemble a Chinese designed bike, using Austrian bolts and labor "Hard to break into the market as a new guy" really doesn't count for much if literally all you're doing is buying the bits of someone else's bike and adding your own bolts into the mix. Quote
WD-40 Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 A few of the posts on this thread look like dealers pretending to be owners Quote
Guest Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 A few of the posts on this thread look like dealers pretending to be owners Definitely Shills!If [mention]Six30[/mention] had got the Mod gig this shit wouldn't be going down! Quote
Tiggie Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 This thread was originally Started by a long lost mod! Quote
Guest Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 This thread was originally Started by a long lost mod! So now we've got Shills and Thread Necromancers running wild here........and not a Mod in sight!What can we learn from this [mention]Six30[/mention] Quote
RantMachine Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 This thread was originally Started by a long lost mod! Gotta love how working from home made Hoggs post less frequently Quote
Six30 Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 This thread was originally Started by a long lost mod! 1496897800_IMG_20170608_125551.jpgSo now we've got Shills and Thread Necromancers running wild here........and not a Mod in sight!What can we learn from this @Six30 from this thread nothing …and im very disappointed by the cant be arsed attitude of the mods Quote
RantMachine Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 from this thread nothing …and im very disappointed by the cant be arsed attitude of the mods ... Quote
potatobroxd Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Dunno a couple 1st posters on here seem sketchy - anyway theres another thread posted a couple days ago on a ksr 125 engine malfunction so you might want to check that Quote
Tiggie Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 [mention]RantMachine[/mention] That makes far too much sense portraying Stu as Kim Jong Un when you see how his Generals and random members of the regime disappear without a trace Quote
Stu Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 @RantMachine That makes far too much sense portraying Stu as Kim Jong Un when you see how his Generals and random members of the regime disappear without a trace I blame the Spanish inquisition Quote
Tiggie Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 So you are saying it all leads back to [mention]XTreme[/mention] ? Quote
Stu Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 See [mention]Tiggie[/mention] he is here already!! Always watching! I blame him! Although I don't know what I am blaming him for yet Quote
Tiggie Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 He is very pro on having Six for mod when no-one else is. Have you checked i.p. addresses to make sure its not all coming from same Computer? Quote
Guest Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 He is very pro on having Six for mod when no-one else is. Have you checked i.p. addresses to make sure its not all coming from same Computer? How can you be sure that nobody wants [mention]Six30[/mention] as a Mod?We'd need a Poll to establish that. Quote
RantMachine Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Nice of you to include that option for Glorian and Xtreme at the bottom! Quote
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