James in Brum Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Thanks Rich. Will do. Probably when I do a spring time take it all off and apart to see how it works an clean it.
fastbob Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Nice work James , your confidence as a mechanic seems to be growing apace . One thing though . You mentioned that when you disconnected the tank that petrol was pissing out . Two reasons spring to mind as to why that happened . One , the vacuum operated tap is stuck open and two , you have the tap ( if there is one ) set on Prime . I don't know the exact set up on a ZZR without looking it up but it shouldn't have happened .
James in Brum Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Okay [mention]fastbob[/mention] regardijh at tap there was something that looked like a button was pushed in by the seat being in place but could not see any turning style tap stop cock type thing. I’ll go through the manual a bit more and see what I can work out. There is not an exposed tap to be able to put on reserve or anything like that.
fastbob Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Okay @fastbob regardijh at tap there was something that looked like a button was pushed in by the seat being in place but could not see any turning style tap stop cock type thing. I’ll go through the manual a bit more and see what I can work out. There is not an exposed tap to be able to put on reserve or anything like that. Ok , must be entirely automatic . Do you have a reserve switch though ?
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Glad to see you had an expert on hand.
skyrider Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 anyway good to see that you have the forelady on the job as well
James in Brum Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Okay @fastbob regardijh at tap there was something that looked like a button was pushed in by the seat being in place but could not see any turning style tap stop cock type thing. I’ll go through the manual a bit more and see what I can work out. There is not an exposed tap to be able to put on reserve or anything like that. Ok , must be entirely automatic . Do you have a reserve switch though ? Not that I know of, I have the lights blink at me to say I have low fuel and I go get some. I’ll go through the owners book and manual tomorrow to make sense of it. The air filter I will do once I take a load of fuel out by riding and I will take pictures of what I find when I get to it
James in Brum Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 That’s my wee lass, she is ace and I want her to grow up thinking that she can do this sort of stuff she loves it, mostly because she likes her overalls
fastbob Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Okay @fastbob regardijh at tap there was something that looked like a button was pushed in by the seat being in place but could not see any turning style tap stop cock type thing. I’ll go through the manual a bit more and see what I can work out. There is not an exposed tap to be able to put on reserve or anything like that. Ok , must be entirely automatic . Do you have a reserve switch though ? Not that I know of, I have the lights blink at me to say I have low fuel and I go get some. I’ll go through the owners book and manual tomorrow to make sense of it. The air filter I will do once I take a load of fuel out by riding and I will take pictures of what I find when I get to it You do have a vacuum operated tap and the design of the internals is the same as my ER5 and is therefore unreliable. Let me know if and when you get to it because I know how to fix them .
JRH Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Okay @fastbob regardijh at tap there was something that looked like a button was pushed in by the seat being in place but could not see any turning style tap stop cock type thing. I’ll go through the manual a bit more and see what I can work out. There is not an exposed tap to be able to put on reserve or anything like that. Ok , must be entirely automatic . Do you have a reserve switch though ? It may be the same as in My GPX. The fuel tap is a vacuum operated unit but there is a prime facility which on the GPX was a button at the rear of the fuel “tap”. So fuel will run out if the button is pressed. Or the unit may just be knackered. Good to see your little one helping. She’ll have a bike if her own in next to no time. Then the fun starts.
James in Brum Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Thanks [mention]fastbob[/mention] what’s in clover in fixing it?[mention]JRH[/mention] i look forwards to getting her a geared fifty in a little over a decade, if she want one :/)
TimR Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Zzr from memory is not vacuum fed Zzr1100 d is on and offZzr1100 c is on and off Zzr600 e had on off resIf you tilt the tank too far it will come out of the overflow. Best to remove tank fully if working on bike as they are prone to being weak near the rear mount and corrode .Do something ( marker pen or red lenstape) to difuse / cover over those fuel lights as at night they will blind you if flashing and distract you .....
fastbob Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Thanks @fastbob what’s in clover in fixing it?@JRH i look forwards to getting her a geared fifty in a little over a decade, if she want one :/) What's involved in fixing it ? ( ) Usually the microscopic hole in this component has become blocked and needs poking through . I use a single bristle from a fine wire brush or a piece of guitar string ( High E ) Oddly , in the drawing , the diaphragms are not illustrated and they are the fiddly bit .
James in Brum Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Thanks for responses. Would process mean entirely empty tank to be able to take that off and apart?
fastbob Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Thanks for responses. Would process mean entirely empty tank to be able to take that off and apart? Not completely empty , as long as you can lean it against the wall with the level below the tap and filler . If you want to avoid spillage you could stick a brake hose clamp on the fuel line . Or use a small pair of pliers and a zip tie .
Bianco2564 Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Can't you siphon some fuel out to make it easier?
Bianco2564 Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Finished putting the wheels back in the Silverwing and took it for a gentle ride; New tyres, damp roads, steady as she goes.
dynax Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Done Bridgets starter, this is what it looked like when i first took it apart to do a temp fix All done now with the new Brush set Now back on Bridget and working great, also new sparkplug fitted and brakes tweeked a bit more while i had the spanners out
Stu Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Done Bridgets starter, this is what it looked like when i first took it apart to do a temp fix P1020647.JPGAll done now with the new Brush set P1020648.JPGNow back on Bridget and working great, also new sparkplug fitted and brakes tweeked a bit more while i had the spanners out You should be doing a write up in a separate thread of what you have done and why
James in Brum Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 I would appreciate it if you did [mention]dynax[/mention] Help me learn of this stuff works
dynax Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 Bridget is all back together now, just finished the last few jobs, cleaning and refitting the front sprocket cover and the chain guard, and i only have a couple of bits left over , one is a locking washer but for a splined bolt or something and a little plastic bung no idea where that goes so overall pretty happy, she just needs a good clean and polish now
dynax Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 I would appreciate it if you did @dynax Help me learn of this stuff works i will get something up when i get the chance and i will have to try and source some pictures from the web as i only took a couple of photos myself
Ian Frog Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 Bridget is all back together now, just finished the last few jobs, cleaning and refitting the front sprocket cover and the chain guard, and i only have a couple of bits left over , one is a locking washer but for a splined bolt or something and a little plastic bung no idea where that goes so overall pretty happy, she just needs a good clean and polish now Hi MateIt is worth checking the front sprocket nut as these are often secured with a washer that bends over and the shaft is splined.Just thinking that if the nut did spin loose it could be a disaster.Hopefully I am wrong !CheersIan
dynax Posted February 18, 2020 Posted February 18, 2020 Bridget is all back together now, just finished the last few jobs, cleaning and refitting the front sprocket cover and the chain guard, and i only have a couple of bits left over , one is a locking washer but for a splined bolt or something and a little plastic bung no idea where that goes so overall pretty happy, she just needs a good clean and polish now Hi MateIt is worth checking the front sprocket nut as these are often secured with a washer that bends over and the shaft is splined.Just thinking that if the nut did spin loose it could be a disaster.Hopefully I am wrong !CheersIan Not the front sprocket already checked the main possibilities not to worry if it's something crucial i'm sure i will soon find out
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