Carbon wheels (on sports bikes)

[geofferz]

https://blog.brocksperformance.com/faq/if-my-bst-wheel-is-damag

ed-can-it-be-fixed/

 

of all the sources of information THAT IDIOT is the last person you should look to, this is the same man who reckons the way to make a bike go faster is to grind down your brake pads.

if you want answers.. ask HPS. or the manufacturer.

 

Cf wheels are unlikely to be a problem I will ever have to worry about, I'm just aimlessly trawling the net

Here's a failure from 2018, taken from ducati forum

Caused by overheating brake

 

I would be somewhat peeved.

[Bender]

of all the sources of information THAT IDIOT is the last person you should look to, this is the same man who reckons the way to make a bike go faster is to grind down your brake pads.

if you want answers.. ask HPS. or the manufacturer.

 

Cf wheels are unlikely to be a problem I will ever have to worry about, I'm just aimlessly trawling the net

Here's a failure from 2018, taken from ducati forum

Caused by overheating brake

 

I would be somewhat peeved.

 

Especially after it came off at 130

[Marino]

Same s..t happened to magnesium wheels

[Marino]

This one spotted on time

[skyrider]

anyone remember the short clip of Robert dunlop's rear wheel collapsing

[Bender]

I'm sure the reduction in un sprung weight and the rotational mass reduction will pay dividends in flick ability.

[S-Westerly]

Same s..t happened to magnesium wheels

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Well that caused me to lose any enthusiasm I may have had for the Marzocchi wheels for my bike. Well that and the 3500 euros they cost. I'll just stick with the original ones.

[Marino]

Same s..t happened to magnesium wheels

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Well that caused me to lose any enthusiasm I may have had for the Marzocchi wheels for my bike. Well that and the 3500 euros they cost. I'll just stick with the original ones.

 

No, those are extremes, if you don’t off roading nothing to worry about.

On the track if happen is because of max abuse for days, weeks, months and possible manufacturing mistakes.

Of course specially with carbon rims you will pay much more attention on potholes.

[Gerontious]

Of course specially with carbon rims you will pay much more attention on potholes.

 

again, that depends entirely on who made the rims and to what severity of testing they are subjected to.

[Marino]

When I got my first and only carbon wheels years back, I did order from brand new company at that time in Slovenia, Rotobox.

They were affordable, guys guaranteed that wheels will last long as steel one. I sold that bike with carbon wheels and both are still alive. That is almost 10 years now.

But I did change my attention on potholes to the max. I didn’t go down the curbs etc. All stupid but it is something inside that push you doing strange things.

Anyway those carbon wheels are still alive, 10 years on

[geofferz]

Encouraging, but I don't want to have to try and avoid pot holes in case my rims smash!

[Cpt_Tact]

My brother has had a set on his Aprilia RSV Mille for the last 3+ years and that bike has only ever been on lovely British roads, he has hit a fair few potholes in his time, one so hard he sent the wheels back to be scanned as he was freaking out. They came back all fine!

Performance - the difference was night and day for turning in but that is on a 2006 fatty of a bike that has about 2 degrees of steering lock so on a modern-day handling missile like an R1M I doubt it would be as pronounced unless in combination with a diet in other areas.

Would I buy them if I could happily afford them - hell yes and why not as they look stunning!

If I couldn't or had to stretch my budget then no way.

[TimR]

Also consider who is goingto be changing your tyres .

Are their facilities equipment etc designed to work on cf wheels without damaging them

[geofferz]

Also consider who is goingto be changing your tyres .

Are their facilities equipment etc designed to work on cf wheels without damaging them

 

Good point, good point...

[Gerontious]

Also consider who is goingto be changing your tyres .

Are their facilities equipment etc designed to work on cf wheels without damaging them

 

Good point, good point...

 

For changing tyres there is no difference between Carbon and Alloy... you just leave it to someone who does the task for a living and not some muppet who does them 'occasionally' Im lucky to have such a specialist just down the road from me, This is the sort of outfit you want. https://www.mtsnottingham.co.uk/about.htm

My wheels cost me £2,500 and he fitted the tyres, no problems at all. (after drooling over them, just a tad)

Edited June 30, 2020 by Gerontious

[TimR]

Also consider who is goingto be changing your tyres .

Are their facilities equipment etc designed to work on cf wheels without damaging them

 

Good point, good point...

 

For changing tyres there is no difference between Carbon and Alloy... you just leave it to someone who does the task for a living and not some muppet who does them 'occasionally' Im lucky to have such a specialist just down the road from me, This is the sort of outfit you want. https://www.mtsnottingham.co.uk/about.htm

 

No no difference in equipment but as you say its the way its undertaken ..

[geofferz]

Worth checking with your insurance as this could be a notifiable modification.

 

Ooh good point thanks. I'd better tell mce about my other mods...

 

If I remember correctly from when I was insured with them, MCE are fairly easy going about mods. I don't think my declared mods affected the premium but at the same time they were not insured on a like for like basis so in the event of theft they would pay out as if it were a standard bike. Could have got that completely wrong of course.

 

Confirmed that they only mods they care about are turbo, supercharger or nos. Everything else is fine, but they don't insure them and only replace with stock items.

[Gerontious]

I havent declared any of the changes i have made to my bike. might do that next time.

Wheels. Exhaust. Full luggage. plus minor things like new seat, screen, pillion plate. So, none of them are insured. renewal is in November.

[geofferz]

I havent declared any of the changes i have made to my bike. might do that next time.

Wheels. Exhaust. Full luggage. plus minor things like new seat, screen, pillion plate. So, none of them are insured. renewal is in November.

 

Mine are declared, but not covered for replacement. They will replace with stock.

[Stu]

Mine are declared, but not covered for replacement. They will replace with stock.

 

Which probably cost more

[Gerontious]

Mine are declared, but not covered for replacement. They will replace with stock.

 

Which probably cost more

 

Funny you should say that.

Africa Twin Exhaust... Replaced with a £379 Scorpion.

 

 

 

[Bender]

You can see why a minor drop writes off a bike.

[geofferz]

Mine are declared, but not covered for replacement. They will replace with stock.

 

Which probably cost more

 

Funny you should say that.

Africa Twin Exhaust... Replaced with a £379 Scorpion.

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Crikey!

[Gerontious]

Crikey!

 

Its actually a lot worse than it looks, That price is just for the base exhaust can. It doesn't include anything else, like the heat shield, end cap. clamp and so on.

I gave a price for my Scorpion. thats the list price. I got mine for just over £280 due to a promotion. The heat shield for the OEM exhaust. costs £277.58

[Marino]

What is in that exhaust to cost so much?

It would cost that much if it was made out of gold.