Guest Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-rules-for-towing-a-trailer-or-caravan-with-a-car-from-autumn-2021#what-will-change-later-in-2021 Looks like they are scrapping trailer tests so any bod can tow anything. Quote
S-Westerly Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 Well that's going to lead to mayhem I'd have thought. Bad enough with people who supposedly know what they are doing. Won't forget the time I saw a towed caravan start fishtailing on the M5 near Taunton. 1 Quote
Bender Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 They have such a backlog they are scraping it, makes a joke of those that had to sit the test but now there's no need. 1 Quote
husoi Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 As long doesn't affect my trailer I not worried Quote
Guest Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 39 minutes ago, Bender said: They have such a backlog they are scraping it, makes a joke of those that had to sit the test but now there's no need. Yeah, a friend passed his last week, paid for through work but still annoying that it was just pointless stress. Quote
Guest Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, husoi said: As long doesn't affect my trailer I not worried Your trailer is being burnt at the stake as part of the proposals, I'm sad to say. Quote
Bender Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, goat said: Your trailer is being burnt at the stake as part of the proposals, I'm sad to say. What kinda steak, I'm partial to rib eye 1 Quote
Guest Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bender said: What kinda steak, I'm partial to rib eye Galician tomahawk steak from ex- dairy cattle Quote
Bender Posted September 13, 2021 Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, goat said: Galician tomahawk steak from ex- dairy cattle Hmmmmm when this burning 1 Quote
dynax Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Bender said: Hmmmmm when this burning Don't know but will there be naked virgins dancing round the fire Quote
Bender Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, dynax said: Don't know but will there be naked virgins dancing round the fire Ohh I think @husoiwill be dancing all night if your into that sort of thing. 1 Quote
Stu Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 14 hours ago, goat said: Yeah, a friend passed his last week, paid for through work but still annoying that it was just pointless stress. I am led to believe he will get a refund on the test fee Well work will Quote
Stu Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 16 hours ago, S-Westerly said: Well that's going to lead to mayhem I'd have thought. I'm going to disagree! Have you seen how many bad drivers there are out there? These have all supposedly passed a driving test! Just because people have passed a test it doesn't make them a good driver and the same applies for pulling a trailer. Anyone can be taught how to pass a test but the real learning starts once you are on the road and some people just don't have that despite a test pass! I think all the tests are inadequate and not like real life driving 3 Quote
S-Westerly Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 True enough. Back when I took my licence I automatically qualified to drive a vehicle and a tow. I've never towed anything in my life and I suspect I'd be dreadful at it. The fact a bit of paper / plastic says you theoretically can doesn't mean you actually can, sadly. 2 Quote
Stu Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, S-Westerly said: True enough. Back when I took my licence I automatically qualified to drive a vehicle and a tow. I've never towed anything in my life and I suspect I'd be dreadful at it. The fact a bit of paper / plastic says you theoretically can doesn't mean you actually can, sadly. The thing is you could actually tow stuff anyway just not a great deal it was all about weights and MAM I have towed trailers and had no issues it's when you get in to towing bigger stuff people need to be careful 4 Quote
Ian Frog Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Stu said: The thing is you could actually tow stuff anyway just not a great deal it was all about weights and MAM I have towed trailers and had no issues it's when you get in to towing bigger stuff people need to be careful I am not disagreeing with @Stu but as someone who has passed his class 1 test I would respectfully point out that large trailers are in general safer for people to get used to the experience with. The cock ups tend to happen with small, light trailers that some numpty`s forget they have following them. I remember once seeing an empty glider trailer pick a range rover up and flip it off the road I was following in an artic and slowed into the middle lane put the hazards on and waited for the tail to finish wagging the dog. Cheers Ian 1 Quote
dynax Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 Even the small ones can cause issues for some, the other day I saw someone trying a 20 point turn in a car park with a 5ft trailer Quote
Bender Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 I like nothing better than watching some numpty trying to reverse his 3ft garden trailer I've towed all my life, mostly over size stuff albeit slowly , with tourers and normal trailers I pretty much go into autopilot, its poor judgment lack of awareness, sudden reactions and bad loading that normally causes the problems, all caused by drivers that are useless. 1 Quote
Mr Fro Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Stu said: The thing is you could actually tow stuff anyway just not a great deal it was all about weights and MAM I have towed trailers and had no issues it's when you get in to towing bigger stuff people need to be careful I dunno, I found it loads easier reversing an artic than my bike trailer! 2 Quote
Stu Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr Fro said: I dunno, I found it loads easier reversing an artic than my bike trailer! No I mean pulling trailers small light trailers are not going to cause issues in terms of fish tailing etc but load a heavy trailer wrong then thats when the issues start Reversing, yes small ones are a twat! 1 Quote
Bender Posted September 14, 2021 Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Stu said: No I mean pulling trailers small light trailers are not going to cause issues in terms of fish tailing etc but load a heavy trailer wrong then thats when the issues start Reversing yes small ones are a twat! Only if you can't drive 1 Quote
Pbassred Posted September 22, 2021 Posted September 22, 2021 On 14/09/2021 at 10:45, Stu said: The thing is you could actually tow stuff anyway just not a great deal it was all about weights and MAM I have towed trailers and had no issues it's when you get in to towing bigger stuff people need to be careful Thats the point isn't it. Most light trailers when combined with a car are less than 3500KG. Most trailers weigh less than the car that is pulling them. A 3 foot general purpose trailer or a sailing dingy was never part of the equation except that the 3500Kg needed to be split between trailer and car. That means a 2 bike trailer and a Audi A4 is about your limit. Raising the limit means that a Rangerover with a lot more power becomes a practical possibility. To the guy who witnessed an accident once:- I take you point, but that can happen to a driver with a licence too. It might have just been a poor driver. The big takeaway is that people thought that they couldn't pull trailers at all. At least they might practice now. ..... Maybe. Quote
Mickly Posted September 22, 2021 Posted September 22, 2021 Ha, small trailers & light cars can call chaos - As a nipper I remember my Dad was towing our garden trailer with his Austin 1100 on the way back from the tip - unfortunately he’d forgotten to fasten the box onto the trailer after shovelling all the crap out at the tip - it chose the middle of Bromsgrove high street ( before it was pedestrianised ) on a Saturday afternoon to detach its self - I had to help my Dad get it back on, I was cringing in embarrassment in case someone I knew saw us, so it went back on bloody quickly. 3 Quote
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