Tango Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Those that are on my FB know that yesterday afternoon I witnessed a very serious RTA. An artic ploughed into several stationary cars and another truck just in front of me. I went to help and the police were soon on the scene. I helped one of the first officers there pull the driver from the remains of one of the cars as he was in a bad way. Unfortunately the passenger in the car was clearly beyond help. Sadly I found out today that the driver also died later on in hospital ...... Anyway, today when heading up the M11 near Cambridge there was a lane closed northbound and a burnt out car on the southbound side. I found out that the car had caught fire and the driver was still inside...... 3 fatalities in 2 days......I hope this isn't a pattern for the rest of the year!!Stay safe out there people......whatever mode of transport you're using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_W Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Damn not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggs Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Oh sh** that sucks. I don't know how I'd react in something like that. Hope you're ok can't imagine it was an easy thing to deal with. I'll echo the stay safe everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissb6 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Those that are on my FB know that yesterday afternoon I witnessed a very serious RTA. An artic ploughed into several stationary cars and another truck just in front of me. I went to help and the police were soon on the scene. I helped one of the first officers there pull the driver from the remains of one of the cars as he was in a bad way. Unfortunately the passenger in the car was clearly beyond help. Sadly I found out today that the driver also died later on in hospital ...... Anyway, today when heading up the M11 near Cambridge there was a lane closed northbound and a burnt out car on the southbound side. I found out that the car had caught fire and the driver was still inside...... 3 fatalities in 2 days......I hope this isn't a pattern for the rest of the year!!Stay safe out there people......whatever mode of transport you're using.Fair play Tango for keeping your cool and helping out, it's only afterwards that reality kicks in that you sit down and reflect. It's scary out there when thing's go wrong, by the grace of god go us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Oh sh** that sucks. I don't know how I'd react in something like that. Hope you're ok can't imagine it was an easy thing to deal with. I'll echo the stay safe everyone I spoke with one of the collision investigation officers today, as they want a statement......and he said that I'm likely to be contacted by a counsellor and his advice was to see them. I surrendered my dash cam to them too, to see if the footage will help the investigation. Unfortunately what is seen cannot be un-seen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Yes I saw your posting on facebook Bob not good at all! the roads are getting worse! and its not new drivers either! the standards are just so poor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 The trouble as well Stu, is that people don't want to get involved either. I saw a pic of the burning car on the M11 and people were driving round it.....It didn't look like anyone stopped to help...... The accident yesterday.....me and another couple of people went to try to help.....but everyone else were standing around spectating or just sitting in their cars....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggs Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Sadly more and more People are more interested on filming stuff on their phones for the OMG hash tag crash posts rather than help a fellow human being Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissb6 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The trouble as well Stu, is that people don't want to get involved either. I saw a pic of the burning car on the M11 and people were driving round it.....It didn't look like anyone stopped to help...... The accident yesterday.....me and another couple of people went to try to help.....but everyone else were standing around spectating or just sitting in their cars....... Agree entirely Bob, is it a sign of our times or is it the thought of getting pulled into all the paper work possible legal battle afterwards???? I'll bet some of the forces are now thinking twice before they act. It's a crazy world we now live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ain't that the truth, Hoggs...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 The trouble as well Stu, is that people don't want to get involved either. I saw a pic of the burning car on the M11 and people were driving round it.....It didn't look like anyone stopped to help...... The accident yesterday.....me and another couple of people went to try to help.....but everyone else were standing around spectating or just sitting in their cars....... Agree entirely Bob, is it a sign of our times or is it the thought of getting pulled into all the paper work possible legal battle afterwards???? I'll bet some of the forces are now thinking twice before they act. It's a crazy world we now live in.Unfortunately it does seem to be a sign of the times Chris.......I'm alright Jack mentality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 yes this is true Bob I have seen this all too often although not on such serious accidents! they just think oh well not my problem! I think a lot of it boils down to selfishness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Crazy..Not sure I could drive past a burning car with no emergency services in attendance without taking a look to see if I could help and I would hope fellow road users would do the same.. Sad times we live in where people are too busy to help.When I did the Kent firebike course at brands hatch, we were told not to worry about legal action as in the uk if you are genuinely trying to assist someone you can't be held responsible if you make things worse. The good Samaritan law.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Yeah.....The whole BikerDown thing is about helping others, Joe......sadly there are a lot of people around these days that would step over you if you fell over in the street........sad times really..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well done tango. Good on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 My gran and granddad was in slow moving traffic on the motorway because a car was on fire.They said a woman and small child was stood on the grass embankment and a car pulled up on the hard shoulder. Hurrah, someone to help? no the moron took a picture and got back in his car and pulled back into the traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Nice one Tango , not a nice experience I'm sure, I would of done the same . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbag Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well done Bob, it's quite normal for it to play on your mind for a while dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well done for helping Bob!not a pleasant experience and will no doubtstay with you for a good while!I always stop and try to help if safe to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrightside Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Well done for doing something mate, although like you say, what is seen can not be unseen.Unfortunately the disgusting reality is that the majority don't help and would rather film someone dying than man up and get stuck in. Grips my shit big time.If you need anything or are unsure about anything, I'm always about to help.Mart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorian Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Fair play to you for helping out.I can understand peoples reservations though. You pull someone out a car and accidentally injure them whats to stop them from pressing charges? (not sure of the law on that) and a lot of people don't have any training and will likely just get in the way of people who know how to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Fair play to you for helping out.I can understand peoples reservations though. You pull someone out a car and accidentally injure them whats to stop them from pressing charges? (not sure of the law on that) and a lot of people don't have any training and will likely just get in the way of people who know how to help. The good Samaritan laws are there to protect firstaiders http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/557888 ... being-suedSo if you see someone in trouble, get stuck in and try to help if you can without harming yourself (too badly) without fear of being sued.The bike safe guys said to me, if you find a motorcyclists on the road, not breathing, its better to get his helmet off and risk a neck injury than have him choke on his tounge/vomit.Infact its nearly always the right thing to do to take the helmet off (contary to popular belief) Also when giving CPR, don't worry if you break the persons ribs - they will heal! Better to have broken ribs and be alive than dead with perfect ribs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 It's terrible, more so that you had to get involved not just because you wanted to help, but because no one else would. Similar happened to me some years back on the M6. Drove past a burning car, occupant still inside, at a distance I saw a figure inside the car and thought I could help. No emergency vehicles were there. The second I got out I saw the person couldn't be saved. Makes you think how detached do you have to be to just drive by that as it started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 There are some very heartless people in this world. Due to the nature of my job I've always had cpr. First aid and emergency response training. Tango. You do get over it mate. Take the counselling offered it will help.On a much lighter note.20 year ago. Myself and several friends were in kings cross station. Cellar bar.Tea time on a Tuesday. Down for a match.Bloke falls down the stairs looking like he's had a heart attack. I jump (lot younger n fitter then ) over 2 railings in the pub to get to him.Proceed to give the initial slap. The responce being "jaysaas that's been a good sesh"!!!!.Not one other person in the entire bar had moved only the 12 or so northern monkeys. So called scum of the earth football lads....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 As I said on FB I am really hoping you're OK and I'm sure Mandy is looking after you.. If there's anything we can do you know you only have to ask, even if it's bundling over on the bikes with home baked treats to keep your mind off things..I would accept the help they offer from the counsellor.. Sometimes you don't realise how much you need help until you've got it..I know I tend to stop at accidents, no matter how minor and it's such a shame that so many people won't.. Won't rant on this topic but I agree with most of the comments so far in the same vein.. Just hope you're ok Bob and thoughts with all those involved.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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