Throttled Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Today I was found not guilty of assault at Paisley Sheriff Court. The sheriff decided that going into a cell and stopping a prisoner from killing himself by pushing him off balance so that he let go of the ligature around his neck, resulting in no injury (apart from the self inflicted one) is not assault. Some of my former police colleagues had decided, for reasons that I want explained, that it is was an assault. There is no training provided by the police as what to do in such circumstances, you just have to do your best and what you think is right.A number of you know about this case, that has been hanging over me since April 2014. So I thought I would pass on the good news. More details in my blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Good result, Throttled........but it sounds like a needlessly stressful time for you......and a waste of court time! Glad that cloud is lifted from you anyway..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggs Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Glad a sensible decision was reached Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe85 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Good stuff mate. Can you now go the other way and sue the CPS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Good stuff mate. Can you now go the other way and sue the CPS? I now have four complaints about Police Scotland and one about the Crown Office Procurator Fiscal Service (COPFS) submitted, all relating to this case. I would like compensation, but I would really like the police to start to train all officers and custody staff on what to do when they find someone trying to self harm or kill them self and for Police Scotland and COPFS to follow their own procedures when investigating allegations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 What an absolute joke, glad common sense prevailed in the end but not good having that hanging over you all that time. The jobs f....d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Pleased for you Throttled, a good result.What were you supposed to do, stand around and do nothing Can not for the life of me see why this was ever bought to court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Good grief what a load of unnecessary stress How come this never got thrown out long before it ever got to court? What a rough time for you, but at least the beak came up with the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Maybe change your forum name mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Pleased for you Throttled, a good result.What were you supposed to do, stand around and do nothing Can not for the life of me see why this was ever bought to court. According to one of the main witnesses, a member of custody staff, yes I should have stood and watched him and do nothing until more assistance arrived. He works part time and had less than a years service at that time. I had 25 years service, often working on my own in rural offices where you not only looked after prisoners but you also answered the phone and dealt with any callers at the office. He criticised me in court, saying that I had ignored him and gone it on the cell on my own against his advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Good grief what a load of unnecessary stress How come this never got thrown out long before it ever got to court? What a rough time for you, but at least the beak came up with the right decision. I suspect targets were being met, justice be damned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Maybe change your forum name mate A motorbike throttle is not the same as trying to throttle.... oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_W Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Pleased for you Throttled, a good result.What were you supposed to do, stand around and do nothing Can not for the life of me see why this was ever bought to court. According to one of the main witnesses, a member of custody staff, yes I should have stood and watched him and do nothing until more assistance arrived. He works part time and had less than a years service at that time. I had 25 years service, often working on my own in rural offices where you not only looked after prisoners but you also answered the phone and dealt with any callers at the office. He criticised me in court, saying that I had ignored him and gone it on the cell on my own against his advice. He's a f**kwit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 He is the subject of one of my complaints. I cannot decide if I should go for neglect of duty which is in the police regulations, or cowardice, which is not, but it is what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzyHP Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Today I was found not guilty of assault at Paisley Sheriff Court. The sheriff decided that going into a cell and stopping a prisoner from killing himself by pushing him off balance so that he let go of the ligature around his neck, resulting in no injury (apart from the self inflicted one) is not assault. Some of my former police colleagues had decided, for reasons that I want explained, that it is was an assault. There is no training provided by the police as what to do in such circumstances, you just have to do your best and what you think is right.A number of you know about this case, that has been hanging over me since April 2014. So I thought I would pass on the good news. More details in my blog Glad to hear a sensible decision has been reached- the job must be hard enough without having to be put through this undeserved stress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I'm very glad to hear this! must be a weight off your mind! Although I agree that you shouldn't have been put in the position in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe85 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 He is the subject of one of my complaints. I cannot decide if I should go for neglect of duty which is in the police regulations, or cowardice, which is not, but it is what he is. Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Bloody hell mate! Glad to hear somebody finally engaged their brain, and sorted this out. Well done on the quick initial thinking too Where did common sense go? People seem to be very quick at passing the book instead of actually thinking for themself now. Complain about everything you can mate, im sure they were not bothered about causing you the stress, after all you did the right thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorian Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Glad you got a result !! Ridiculous it even went that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTreme Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Justice! But insane that the whole situation ever came about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RantMachine Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Really glad to hear it's all sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 In agreement with all here, stupid that it even had to come to this but so glad it's all over and you can breath easy You're a gentle giant and we all know this, you did the right thing x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Thanks to all, letting me unburden myself and the support is much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Excellent news mate! You should be able to now act against the person who made these ridicolous claims and no doubt made your life hell for that past 2 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Glad common sense prevailed mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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