Oooh More Controversy

[Mickly]

So,

Electrical terminals:

Crimp ...Solder...Or both?

A genuine question as I’m chopping up the harness on the Triphy project.

 

Got these to do ( at least ), I’ve unpicked the connectors & now want to shorten the wires without having additional joints.

[rennie]

I'm an electrician, HV nowadays not 12V.

But I would say either but not both

[Stu]

Crimp for me!

They have been used for years with no issues and its quicker

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

I solder. Crimped connections seem to suffer more from degradation and damp problems.

I know plenty of folks who crimp and are happy to do things that way.

Of course they are wrong and wicked to do so.

[JRH]

I usually crimp as it is easier and quicker but use the correct crimp tool for the size of connectors.

[Grumpy Old Git]

Twist and tape!

[Stu]

Twist and tape!

 

I have seen some without the tape so why bother!!

[Fleck]

Solder and shrink wrap

[billy sugger]

Solder and shrink wrap

 

I use solder sleeves

[Guest Richzx6r]

Solder and shrink wrap

 

I use solder sleeves

 

You mean soldier sleeves

[Snod Blatter]

Some say that the wires will just work harden and break off if you use solder because it won't flex like a crimp can. All I know is you only seem to get crimped connectors on original wiring..

[Stu]

Some say that the wires will just work harden and break off

 

only if you work them

most bike wiring is static so its not an issue

[Snod Blatter]

I dunno man, there's a lot of movement around the headstock and all the vibration..

[Stu]

I dunno man, there's a lot of movement around the headstock and all the vibration..

 

solder a wire and see how long it takes to break

I have done repairs on car doors in the past and they are going strong

There's not a great deal of places where it moves like you say the headstock and thats about it really

[Mickly]

I do wonder why OE is crimped not soldered

Cost? Reliability? Longevity?

Hmmm ...

[Mickly]

Also I’m struggling to find replacement terminals to fit the connector blocks, any ideas?

[Stu]

Also I’m struggling to find replacement terminals to fit the connector blocks, any ideas?

 

try here

https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Categories/Yamaha_Wiring_Loom_Connectors/FJR1300_200607

[JRH]

I do wonder why OE is crimped not soldered

Cost? Reliability? Longevity?

Hmmm ...

 

All of the above, but mainly cost/time.

The cable can be cut, stripped and crimped in auto machines

Wiring looms are then made up on a jig.

Soldering takes more time and not so easy on a cable loom production.

[Mickly]

Also I’m struggling to find replacement terminals to fit the connector blocks, any ideas?

 

try here

https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Categories/Yamaha_Wiring_Loom_Connectors/FJR1300_200607

 

Hi Stu,

Thanks for the link to the electrical connectors, after a bit of rooting around I found exactly what I needed

Although I have to buy the blocks as well so needn’t have faffed around unpicking them and sticking a small screwdriver into my hand - every day’s a school day !

[Mr Fro]

Oi, [mention]Stu[/mention], do you know where I can get the old style optimate connectors at a reasonable price too?

[Stu]

Oi, @Stu, do you know where I can get the old style optimate connectors at a reasonable price too?

 

Yes

Ebay.... Tamiya connectors I believe

[Fleck]

Oi, @Stu, do you know where I can get the old style optimate connectors at a reasonable price too?

 

I just used to put "optimate connectors" in ebay search

[Mr Fro]

Oi, @Stu, do you know where I can get the old style optimate connectors at a reasonable price too?

 

I just used to put "optimate connectors" in ebay search

 

At £3 a go? You've got to be joking!

Knowing what they are gets them for 69p.

Cheers [mention]Stu[/mention].

[Grumpy Old Git]

Use Bluetooth - You don't need to connect the wires then!

[Stu]

Oi, @Stu, do you know where I can get the old style optimate connectors at a reasonable price too?

 

I just used to put "optimate connectors" in ebay search

 

At £3 a go? You've got to be joking!

Knowing what they are gets them for 69p.

Cheers @Stu.

 

Last time I bought some I paid about £3 for 10