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Right folks.

Looks like the Trophy engine will have to have some open heart surgery.

I was looking at an engine stand to support it while being worked on ( it can’t just be rested on the bench as it’s not stable ).

The problem is that the engine hangs off bosses on the block at the front which would be utilised by a stand but the blocks going to have to come off.

Now it’s a bloody heavy lump so would just hanging it off the 2 sets of rear fixing points be ok or has anyone got better ideas?

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If you have the tools why not getting some steel rectangular profiles and weld something together?

It will be far cheaper than getting a purpose made

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@Stu Look what your new server is doing. :scratch: :scratch:

 

I'm not sure what's going on! It's being a bit shit today :?

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Would it be ok to hang the engine off the rear mounts highlighted?

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I had a look at a company called Ace Motorcycle Engine Stands and as far as I can see the stand that they do for Triumph does involve hanging the engine off the back two bolts .

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I made this for the RGV out of some scrap from work.

Allows it to stand on end or horizontally when clamped on my workmate bench.

Of course the RGV engine is tiny compared to the Trophy but scaled up with maybe a wooden face to sit the sump on?

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A wooden Jig? If daft idea sorry I have the practical skills of a sea anemone :-)

 

I've made then from wood before - it works okay.


Aluminium extrusion works better though, much easier to adjust it and much more rigid.

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And that's another plus for the ER5 . It sits up all by itself .

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I had a look at a company called Ace Motorcycle Engine Stands and as far as I can see the stand that they do for Triumph does involve hanging the engine off the back two bolts .

 

Thanks for that [mention]fastbob[/mention]

I should be able to knock up something like that with some angle iron & a few bolts 👍

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I had a look at a company called Ace Motorcycle Engine Stands and as far as I can see the stand that they do for Triumph does involve hanging the engine off the back two bolts .

 

Thanks for that @fastbob

I should be able to knock up something like that with some angle iron & a few bolts 👍

 

No worries . Am I right in thinking that your upper crankcase and cylinders are all one casting ? Am I also correct in assuming that in order to remove the pistons you have to first remove the crankshaft ? Rather you than me . 😁

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I had a look at a company called Ace Motorcycle Engine Stands and as far as I can see the stand that they do for Triumph does involve hanging the engine off the back two bolts .

 

Thanks for that @fastbob

I should be able to knock up something like that with some angle iron & a few bolts 👍

 

No worries . Am I right in thinking that your upper crankcase and cylinders are all one casting ? Am I also correct in assuming that in order to remove the pistons you have to first remove the crankshaft ? Rather you than me . 😁

 

I fear you are correct, gonna try all options before having to do that!!

Not that I know what options I have with low compression, the engine has only done 28k but has been standing for a long time.

Could be gummed rings? Hopefully that can be checked by just removing the head.

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Thanks for that @fastbob

I should be able to knock up something like that with some angle iron & a few bolts 👍

 

No worries . Am I right in thinking that your upper crankcase and cylinders are all one casting ? Am I also correct in assuming that in order to remove the pistons you have to first remove the crankshaft ? Rather you than me . 😁

 

I fear you are correct, gonna try all options before having to do that!!

Not that I know what options I have with low compression, the engine has only done 28k but has been standing for a long time.

Could be gummed rings? Hopefully that can be checked by just removing the head.

Well no , it can't unfortunately . All you will see is the piston crowns . I actually thought my ER5 project looked ok when I pulled the head off . It didn't smoke when I started it but when I pulled the barrels off the truth was revealed . I only recently learned that modern bikes have integral barrels when I was chatting to a neighbor about his Thunderace . Other than simplifying the assembly process I can't really see the advantage other than a way to build in obselesence . So , it you are going to build an engine jig , make sure it can be turned upside down because you're going in from underneath .

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Thanks for the advice.

Having phoned a friend ( the guys who did the compression testing) they recommend taking off the sump & oil feed pipes then the engine will result flat on the bench.

Hopefully picking the bike up on Saturday and will make a start on removing the engine soon after.

I may start a new thread documenting my ham fistedness & give you all a good laugh !!

Least it’s something to do over the next 4 weeks 😬

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Yes please . Can't beat a bit of Engine Porn .

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