With a rangerover rac is optional, alcoholics anonymous is obligatory. The very first rr was fine, fit electronic ignition and carry some oil it would cross the world, anything post 3.9 and Asda and back is a push. I don't know, the newer ones aren't THAT bad, well except the P38, that is, and then some!. To be fair if I were crossing the world I'd want one of these: I freely admit they're a better car, it's just they cost so much more to buy that I'd rather take the chance and have that lovely interior . I'm looking forward to revisiting this thread in the future to either inform you all its gone catostophically wrong and laugh at myself or that it hasn't missed a beat and laugh at you all .