I tried ditching meat altogether for 1 year, Normally my alcohol intake is very low, comparing to most Scots anyway. I spent all this time on vegetables, fruits (including nuts) and fish. This because of my arthritis and at the time gout. Didn't notice any difference and having gone back to eat meat again I can't say it made much difference. I have to mention that my diet is normally Mediterranean based, low amount of fried food and negligible amount of processed food. Don't eat at McPlastics or the like. Very low beer intake, less than 1 pint a week Low intake of wine but mostly would be red when it happens. Like you [mention]rob m[/mention] I have nothing against religious vegans and far from me to tell anyone what to eat or drink