Bhawk Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 Well i thought id splash out and get an orange chain for the bike, to accentuate the colour scheme. It turned up within two days which i was impressed with. So tonight i stripped the bike down (put new tyres on while i was at it) and went to fit the chain.The chain was sold as a chain and sprocket kit for yamaha thundercat. The chain is too thin to even sit on the sprockets that came with the kit! and it was 6" too short.I need the bike on the road, the old chains knackered and now i have no bike until the seller responds!Am i being stupid and missing something, please tell me i am! Quote
S-Westerly Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 Well i thought id splash out and get an orange chain for the bike, to accentuate the colour scheme. It turned up within two days which i was impressed with. So tonight i stripped the bike down (put new tyres on while i was at it) and went to fit the chain.The chain was sold as a chain and sprocket kit for yamaha thundercat. The chain is too thin to even sit on the sprockets that came with the kit! and it was 6" too short.I need the bike on the road, the old chains knackered and now i have no bike until the seller responds!Am i being stupid and missing something, please tell me i am!Wouldn't call you stupid but you've experienced why I rarely buy anything on eBay anymore. Difficult to get redress and no guarantee that the quality of what you are buying is what you think it is. Caveat emptor and all that. Quote
Joeman Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 eBay buyer protection is pretty good to be fair. If the seller doesn't resolve the issue start a case against them. Last thing they want is bad feedback.Meanwhile maybe but another from another seller. Quote
megawatt Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 See if your old chain will fit those sprockets or vice versa. Looks like wrong width. Quote
geofferz Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 eBay buyer protection is pretty good to be fair. If the seller doesn't resolve the issue start a case against them. Last thing they want is bad feedback.Meanwhile maybe but another from another seller. I launched a case the other day (you have to wait for about a week's non-response - make sure you message them through the eBay system for proof), I had the cash back in my PayPal within a couple of days. Quote
bonio Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 eBay buyer protection is pretty good to be fair. If the seller doesn't resolve the issue start a case against them. Last thing they want is bad feedback.Meanwhile maybe but another from another seller. I launched a case the other day (you have to wait for about a week's non-response - make sure you message them through the eBay system for proof), I had the cash back in my PayPal within a couple of days. This is the right thing to do. Ebay is weighted heavily in favour of the buyer. Start by opening a case; just make sure that you write clearly how the thing you've received can't be described as a chain and sprocket set, since the chain doesn't fit the sprocket, and it can't be said to be for a Thundercat, since it's chain is too short for the swing arm. Probably what's happened is that the person packing it has picked up the wrong chain and sent it by mistake, so it could be you get a replacement sent. If not, you should get a refund, and if the seller doesn't do one or other of these, then ebay will take the money out of their account and refund it to you without even asking them.You should be able to open the case today, no need to wait, given that you've received something that doesn't match the description. Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 It's a pain when eBay crap lives up to what you've come to expect. But personally I prefer the method of talking to a human being and handing them cash in exchange for new toys to play with. If the bits don't work it's so much easier to sort out. Quote
S-Westerly Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 It's a pain when eBay crap lives up to what you've come to expect. But personally I prefer the method of talking to a human being and handing them cash in exchange for new toys to play with. If the bits don't work it's so much easier to sort out. I'm with you on that. Maybe it's a generational thing but I like to handle things before I buy or at least see them. Somehow its more satisfying and you can interact with a human being. The exception for me is ebooks. I have loads of them but that's mainly because I can't nip into my regular bookshop when I'm out at sea. Quote
fastbob Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 I find that eBay is weighted so heavily in favour of the buyer that it's almost uncanny . Make the slightest criticism of a product and you get a prompt refund AND get to keep the item . You've just got the wrong chain , shit happens . Don't blame eBay . Talk to the seller and send them your pictures . Quote
fastbob Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 I had a look at your chain specs . As standard your bike should have a 532 chain but this is nearly always superceded by a 530 conversion ( with appropriate sprockets ) I see from the pics that you have received a 520 chain . So that's why it doesn't fit . Quote
oldgrump Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 I find that eBay is weighted so heavily in favour of the buyer that it's almost uncanny . Make the slightest criticism of a product and you get a prompt refund AND get to keep the item . You've just got the wrong chain , shit happens . Don't blame eBay . Talk to the seller and send them your pictures . Totally agree with [mention]fastbob[/mention] on this subject, I've sold a few items on Ebay over the years, and just the other week had a case opened against me.This is the description of article I was selling.CLASSIC BIKE SEPTEMBER 1991DUCATI 250 AND 450 DESMO SINGLESYAMAHA TD1 PRODUCTION RACERAJW GREY FOXCLASSICS TO BUY BSA 500 AND 650 PRE UNIT TWINS+ MUCH MORE.Hi bidding is for the above magazine not in bad condition but may have a few mark's on cover or inside.Any questions please e-mail.Powered by eBay Turbo ListerPLEASE NOTE. SELLER IS AWAY FOR A WEEK SO ANY PURCHASE BETWEEN THE 16/08/2019 AND THE 26/08/2019 WILL NOT BE DESPATCHED UNTIL TUESDAY 27th AUGUST.THANK YOU FOR YOUR CO-OPERATION.And on the bottom you will note I wrote I was away!!!I despatched the item on Sunday 25th, on Tuesday 27th a case opened for not sending item!!I contacted buyer to say read listing, On Wednesday 28th he left me the following Negative feedback.Have not received the item. How long does it take to post a magazine?Buyer: Member ID CLASSIC BIKE SEPTEMBER 1991 MOTO GUZZI LE MANS DUCATI DESMO 250 AND 450 SINGLES (#323785897919)But at least he closed case against me!!!!But yes as [mention]fastbob[/mention] said, just contact seller and ask them to send the right Chain. Quote
Bhawk Posted September 23, 2019 Author Posted September 23, 2019 Well the seller got im touch quickly, explained that the chain had been sent by mistake. Also told me they had no orange 530 chains, but he could send me a 520 conversion if i still wanted orange. Which i do. New chain arrived and I've fitted it. But it's a split link. So ill need to buy a 520 rivet link as i wouldn't feel comfortable with a split link on a 600.If i can't get the rivet link in time, is there anything i can do to make the split link more secure? Quote
megawatt Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Nothing wrong with split links as long as fitted properly. I have two on my dragbike. Quote
Bhawk Posted September 23, 2019 Author Posted September 23, 2019 Nothing wrong with split links as long as fitted properly. I have two on my dragbike. Ah right, cheers. I was always told they weren't safe on anything over a 125. If its safe though I'll happily use it. Quote
fastbob Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Nothing wrong with split links as long as fitted properly. I have two on my dragbike. It's not exactly a tourer . Quote
fastbob Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Well the seller got im touch quickly, explained that the chain had been sent by mistake. Also told me they had no orange 530 chains, but he could send me a 520 conversion if i still wanted orange. Which i do. New chain arrived and I've fitted it. But it's a split link. So ill need to buy a 520 rivet link as i wouldn't feel comfortable with a split link on a 600.If i can't get the rivet link in time, is there anything i can do to make the split link more secure? So you have now downgraded from 532 to 520 for the sake of appearance . Well it looks nice but it wouldn't be my choice . I've got a split link on my ER5 which is 48 bhp ( allegedly ) Quote
Mr Fro Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Yep, split links are fine. Got them on the whinja and El Turbino.But yeah, why chop down to a 520? Much higher wear and lower force to break. Quote
skyrider Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 they used split links on vincent black shadows,its just fashion to use o rings etc i would sooner have a split link on my bike as it is easier to get the chain on and off Quote
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