onesea Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 Scheduling at my work have come up with a new GDP issue. We are no longer allowed to know who we are working with. We work in pairs, normally and until 3 days ago could look in advance for months and see who we had been rostered with. Note we can see our roster but not who we are working with. Suddenly we are not allowed to know even know 12 hours in advance. You have to turn up on shift and see who else is there. Apparently it's all to do with GDP regulations, we are not allowed to know the name of who we are working with. 1 Quote
bonio Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, onesea said: Scheduling at my work have come up with a new GDP issue. We are no longer allowed to know who we are working with. We work in pairs, normally and until 3 days ago could look in advance for months and see who we had been rostered with. Note we can see our roster but not who we are working with. Suddenly we are not allowed to know even know 12 hours in advance. You have to turn up on shift and see who else is there. Apparently it's all to do with GDP regulations, we are not allowed to know the name of who we are working with. Hilarious! 100 years ago, it took a genius like Kafka to imagine this kind of thing. Now we have the ability to make it happen with just a handful of accountants and lawyers. (with apologies to the accoutants and lawyers among us... ) Quote
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 They did this at the Bristol hospitals. So you couldn’t swap days with anyone, couldn’t book your holiday based on what time was actually available and would just get an email saying your request had been rejected. So trying to book time off or arrange appointments became a nightmare. They went on and on about how great the new system was and when demonstrating how it worked accidentally switched the computer off. Being the ancient creaking lumps of outdated technology the computers are we all sat there in silence for over 10 mins while it decided whether it wanted to start up again or not In the end we went back to using a paper diary which was then transferred to the computer. They used it to torture the managers about staffing levels. It really did turn into a case of “the computer says no” 1 Quote
Steve_M Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, James in Brum said: That is not a gdp thing. It sounds to me like someone has misunderstood the U.K. GDPR rules. I’d be inclined to ask them to go check again. Define the purpose... Quote
James in Brum Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 I wonder if they get people trying to avoid each other and it has become a problem and GDPR is being used as an excuse. 1 Quote
Mickly Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Slowlycatchymonkey said: They did this at the Bristol hospitals. So you couldn’t swap days with anyone, couldn’t book your holiday based on what time was actually available and would just get an email saying your request had been rejected. So trying to book time off or arrange appointments became a nightmare. They went on and on about how great the new system was and when demonstrating how it worked accidentally switched the computer off. Being the ancient creaking lumps of outdated technology the computers are we all sat there in silence for over 10 mins while it decided whether it wanted to start up again or not In the end we went back to using a paper diary which was then transferred to the computer. They used it to torture the managers about staffing levels. It really did turn into a case of “the computer says no” As a Manager I was a complete B*stard over the booking of holidays. I made the holiday chart available on line so the team could see who was off when & introduced some rules: ‘no more than 3 off at any one time unless the whole company was shut down’, ‘demonstration of an agreed plan for covering workload while away’, ‘No holidays spanning key delivery dates’, ‘Holidays cannot be cancelled within 4 weeks of the intended date ( unless for a bloody good reason) & no more than 2 weeks at a time. I greyed out any refused requests to ensure no sneaky sickies taken. The power of presiding over those requests was intoxicating I used to leave them sweating for days. 1 Quote
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mickly said: As a Manager I was a complete B*stard over the booking of holidays. I made the holiday chart available on line so the team could see who was off when & introduced some rules: ‘no more than 3 off at any one time unless the whole company was shut down’, ‘demonstration of an agreed plan for covering workload while away’, ‘No holidays spanning key delivery dates’, ‘Holidays cannot be cancelled within 4 weeks of the intended date ( unless for a bloody good reason) & no more than 2 weeks at a time. I greyed out any refused requests to ensure no sneaky sickies taken. The power of presiding over those requests was intoxicating I used to leave them sweating for days. You sicko Quote
dynax Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 The first and last time I got refused my holidays for a good reason I walked out. Don't give a fig who or what you are, but nobody and I mean nobody will stop me taking time off without a good reason. 1 Quote
Mickly Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Slowlycatchymonkey said: You sicko Guilty Quote
Bender Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, Mickly said: As a Manager I was a complete B*stard over the booking of holidays. I made the holiday chart available on line so the team could see who was off when & introduced some rules: ‘no more than 3 off at any one time unless the whole company was shut down’, ‘demonstration of an agreed plan for covering workload while away’, ‘No holidays spanning key delivery dates’, ‘Holidays cannot be cancelled within 4 weeks of the intended date ( unless for a bloody good reason) & no more than 2 weeks at a time. I greyed out any refused requests to ensure no sneaky sickies taken. The power of presiding over those requests was intoxicating I used to leave them sweating for days. Twat 1 Quote
Slowlycatchymonkey Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 The managers who used to sort out the annual leave seemed to have forgotten they have only bought your life for a certain number of hours and behaved liked they owned your life. They behaved disgracefully, granting annual leave to people they liked and refusing requests from people they didn’t. It was a power trip of disgusting levels. I never fell foul of them and was always granted what I requested. It was very difficult because I’d been privy to their conspiratorial sniggers as they punished someone they deemed unworthy and whilst I was busting to tell them what I thought of their behaviour and lack of managerial skills I didn’t want to end up on the wrong side of things working lates and having holidays refused! Quote
S-Westerly Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 We used to have the same thing going where some folks used to always get relieved on time while others regularly ended up doing an extra month away and then be pressurised to go back early so the other guy didn't have to do longer. If you had a regular back to back most guys were fair but there are still some chancers who'll buddy screw at the drop of a hat. With Covid if you're lucky enough to get away you have no idea if you'll do 3 months or 9. Quote
rightstuff Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 what is gdpr never heard of it if your owed holiday just take it or change job plenty of work about Quote
Steve_M Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, rightstuff said: what is gdpr never heard of it if your owed holiday just take it or change job plenty of work about General Data Protection Regulation. It superseded the Data Protection Act. In broad terms, it’s to protect you from having your personal information shared without your authority, or outside the bounds of a legitimate reason (I’m hazy on the details since it’s changed a little since I left full time employment). The employer in this case could define the person’s name as necessary for rota scheduling purposes. It might be that their phone number could be included. It would not be valid, say, to include their home address or salary for obvious reasons. 1 Quote
Pie man Posted February 13, 2021 Posted February 13, 2021 5 hours ago, onesea said: Scheduling at my work have come up with a new GDP issue. We are no longer allowed to know who we are working with. We work in pairs, normally and until 3 days ago could look in advance for months and see who we had been rostered with. Note we can see our roster but not who we are working with. Suddenly we are not allowed to know even know 12 hours in advance. You have to turn up on shift and see who else is there. Apparently it's all to do with GDP regulations, we are not allowed to know the name of who we are working with. You might very well work for MI5 but maybe your Governance Dept fails to understand their interpretation of GDPR 1 Quote
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