James in Brum Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 My brother in law put two stroke mixed fuel into my rotavator whicb is four stroke. How much does this matter? I can dilute further but getting it out will be difficult but doable. What should I do please? Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 I'd suggest getting as much of the mix out of the tank as you can then take the float bowl off and clean it out same with the jets as they may be gummed up abit then fill with fresh fuel and cross your fingers Quote
Gerontious Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 The oil mix is usually around 2% maybe slightly more than that, aside from some extra smoke it shouldn't be problematic. You can dilute it further as the machine runs if the smoke is too much to bear. Might be worthwhile giving it a dose of carb cleaner as and when you can. Quote
fastbob Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Apart from a bit of smoke it'll probably do it good . Seriously , once the new fuel has gone through the carb it will be fine . Quote
Ian Frog Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Back in the day I ran a transit on pre mixed 2 stroke from Brands Hatch back to Croydon more than once as I had premixed race fuel for the bikes but couldn't afford more fuel for the van.Never did any harm and once flushed through with neat petrol (Which it was back then complete with crushed dinosaurs).As said above probably did the engine good.CheersIan Quote
Old-codger Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 If it was me would run it at full throttle so it smoked like hell then send a video to Greta in Sweden just to piss her off. The rotovator will be fine it may smoke a little but not a problem. Quote
James in Brum Posted March 31, 2020 Author Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks all. Just need to fix the awful squeal. There has been a suggestion by my brother in law it is the pull start spring. I have taken that off to ‘service’ if not I have no idea what it is. I do know the pull was not returning when it started so that is why I am starting there. Quote
Mickly Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Ran out of gas on my Gixxer (Carb) once ( forgotten that I’d gone on to reserve the previous day ) guy leaving the local MX track stopped & gave me a couple of pints of pre-mix to get me to a petrol station, had no probs at all. Quote
Ian Frog Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks all. Just need to fix the awful squeal. There has been a suggestion by my brother in law it is the pull start spring. I have taken that off to ‘service’ if not I have no idea what it is. I do know the pull was not returning when it started so that is why I am starting there. Fantastic post !!CheersIan Quote
Ian Frog Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 If it was me would run it at full throttle so it smoked like hell then send a video to Greta in Sweden just to piss her off. The rotovator will be fine it may smoke a little but not a problem. Sorry my comment and pic was meant to go here !Doh!!!!!!!CheersIan Quote
FallingDown Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 She may be a bit naive and idealistic as well as obviously being used by her parents and others but this is still a little girl that you're picking on. Come on guys. Quote
Bender Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 She may be a bit naive and idealistic as well as obviously being used by her parents and others but this is still a little girl that you're picking on. Come on guys. I agreePick on the scheming manipulative parents instead, in a couple of years she will be fair game. Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 I put two stroke in a four stroke rotavator once. When I fired it up it bounded along the ground with the blades just skipping across the hard ground. It took the side out of our greenhouse before demolishing a hole in the fence.Now the fuel used may not have been entirely to blame but be warned, rotavators can have a mind of their own. Quote
Grumpy Old Git Posted March 31, 2020 Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks all. Just need to fix the awful squeal. There has been a suggestion by my brother in law it is the pull start spring. I have taken that off to ‘service’ if not I have no idea what it is. I do know the pull was not returning when it started so that is why I am starting there. The return spring has probably broken (the bent 'hook' at one end). You may be able to bend in a new 'hook' and refit but its probably worth buying a new spring. Quote
James in Brum Posted March 31, 2020 Author Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks I plan to have a proper look tomorrow. Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 who was driving it at the time I plead the right not to answer on grounds of avoiding self incrimination. Quote
James in Brum Posted April 13, 2020 Author Posted April 13, 2020 An update. I have serviced the spring pull and I have replaced the clutch.When I pulled I got a lot of resistance. Seemed to be too much so I looked at the oil and it was fit to spilling out the cap. I took some out (quite a lot) and there is a lot less resistance. No idea if this was the right thing to do, just seemed like too much if spilling out.There is a clunk three quarters of the way through the pull which was there when there was all the oil in but it was hard to pull so less pronounced. I could not see a spark at the plug. No sign of damage to the plug. There is compression when I pull. I have run out of ideas and knowledge and will likely take it to local menders. Quote
cyberwolf Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I used 2 stroke fuel in my lawnmower and strimmer for 2 years with no problems, i forgot they were 4 stroke Quote
Grumpy Old Git Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 Thanks all. Just need to fix the awful squeal. There has been a suggestion by my brother in law it is the pull start spring. I have taken that off to ‘service’ if not I have no idea what it is. I do know the pull was not returning when it started so that is why I am starting there. I will be that for sure. Possible you will find the broken end (curved bit) of the spring has ground a shallow groove in the pull gear wheel. Quote
James in Brum Posted May 15, 2020 Author Posted May 15, 2020 I the end it was the spring, the clutch and the fact that the piston was scored and damaged. Ended up putting anew second hand engine on. Quote
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