Guest Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Need to fit a new indicator again for various reasons (fecking bike obeying the law of gravity). Have got one of these https://www.voilamart.co.uk/voilamart-insulated-wire-crimper-wire-terminals-connectors-ratcheting-crimper-plier-tool-for-22-10awg.html But it won't crimp small enough for the bullet connectors to stay on. I'm probably just being thick, but sometimes my beauty absorbs too much of my brain power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husoi Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 I always prefer to solder than crimping although I know some defend crimping is better. Ideally, crimp and solder after to make sure nothing goes anywhere. A small crimping pliers would to the trick for small contacts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Its a bit awkward for soldering. Would result in too much swearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 I can't copy the link on my phone....but if you look on Amazon for the Silverline crimping tool it's the same as the one I use. The vast sum of £2.70. I've crimped small connectors with it. Never had a problem with them coming adrift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V650 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) Some Crimpers like the one in your link have interchangeable jaws maybe same company can supply smaller crimp jaws Like the one in this photo on ebay Edited October 21, 2023 by V650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWithStyles Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) Im with Husoi, crimping should only be used under certain cases and this is not one of them. pretty nasty and should only be viewed as an emergency to get by in a car for when your speakers/sub/amp cables got pulled out while you were getting shite out of your Nova. no way good enough for bikes that's outside in the wet and really thin wires! cut, shef, slip over shrink tubes below, link or twist the wires, solder, pull tube over solder, heat the tube and its sealed snd thinner to pop back in a tight space than the crap crimps. Simples. get a cheap gas soldering iron kit, can of gas, shrink tubes. Edited October 21, 2023 by RideWithStyles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWithStyles Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) This mid transplant, now being a Honda you have to completely strip the hell out of the bike to get to anything on it so thats why it looks like its been smashed up lol. OEM are filament bulbs so i needed to cut the OEM connections, new resistors and new led indicators. Double check the wires for being correct and working in the order for lights. solder the original wire to the resistors and then the indicators. i didn't have time to take a finished photo but you'd never get crimps to fit in, corrosion would have got to them so ud have to redo them again in no time and it would look horrible. Edited October 21, 2023 by RideWithStyles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, RideWithStyles said: Im with Husoi, crimping should only be used under certain cases and this is not one of them. pretty nasty and should only be viewed as an emergency to get by in a car for when your speakers/sub/amp cables got pulled out while you were getting shite out of your Nova. no way good enough for bikes that's outside in the wet and really thin wires! cut, shef, slip over shrink tubes below, link or twist the wires, solder, pull tube over solder, heat the tube and its sealed snd thinner to pop back in a tight space than the crap crimps. Simples. get a cheap gas soldering iron kit, can of gas, shrink tubes. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Guest Posted October 21, 2023 Solution Share Posted October 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, RideWithStyles said: This mid transplant, now being a Honda you have to completely strip the hell out of the bike to get to anything on it so thats why it looks like its been smashed up lol. OEM are filament bulbs so i needed to cut the OEM connections, new resistors and new led indicators. Double check the wires for being correct and working in the order for lights. solder the original wire to the resistors and then the indicators. i didn't have time to take a finished photo but you'd never get crimps to fit in, corrosion would have got to them so ud have to redo them again in no time and it would look horrible. What the f**k are you on about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlylegend Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 5 hours ago, goat said: Its a bit awkward for soldering. Would result in too much swearing. What's wrong with swearing ? Didn't hold Sir William Connolly back much ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, curlylegend said: What's wrong with swearing ? Didn't hold Sir William Connolly back much ..... The swearing I enjoy. The futility of deliberately making something more difficult for no reason I don't enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 If you're really careful you can crimp with side cutters! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 20 hours ago, goat said: Need to fit a new indicator again for various reasons (fecking bike obeying the law of gravity). Have got one of these https://www.voilamart.co.uk/voilamart-insulated-wire-crimper-wire-terminals-connectors-ratcheting-crimper-plier-tool-for-22-10awg.html But it won't crimp small enough for the bullet connectors to stay on. I'm probably just being thick, but sometimes my beauty absorbs too much of my brain power. Try these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-13656-way-Crimping-Tool/dp/B0001K9PBE/ref=asc_df_B0001K9PBE/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=271967412945&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5219522346583039977&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007201&hvtargid=pla-464065777622&psc=1&th=1&psc=1#immersive-view_1697973567134 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Or these Draper 62226 190 mm 9-Way Cable Ferrule Crimping Pliers https://amzn.eu/d/boP6gCD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggie Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I find the cheap wire stripper things usually work ok for crimping the smaller sizes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, rennie said: If you're really careful you can crimp with side cutters! As an electrical engineer I can't condone this but I would say I have cut through several bootlace ferrules using this method. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Me too! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I have set of these: https://www.toolstation.com/minotaur-ratchet-crimping-tool/p46714? They work ok except for smallest wires. Do a better job than the cheap ones. However I am struggling to find someone to make up larger wire sizes, for the boat. As soon as I mention the last bit the price rockets. I need to come and measure that's £100 before you start. Trying to find online, is challenging. I can give the lengths and sizes, it's just getting them made up. It's too connect to batteries via a VCR. Are these sort of things any good? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185997007669? not trying to hijack the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Hijack away my good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Tiggie said: I find the cheap wire stripper things usually work ok for crimping the smaller sizes thats exactly the same as mine and it works 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, skyrider said: thats exactly the same as mine and it works Same here. That's the one mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Strip and fold as much wire as you can get into the crimp, even if you can just double it, gives more to crimp onto 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 On 21/10/2023 at 15:57, goat said: Need to fit a new indicator again for various reasons (fecking bike obeying the law of gravity). Have got one of these https://www.voilamart.co.uk/voilamart-insulated-wire-crimper-wire-terminals-connectors-ratcheting-crimper-plier-tool-for-22-10awg.html But it won't crimp small enough for the bullet connectors to stay on. I'm probably just being thick, but sometimes my beauty absorbs too much of my brain power. The connectors that they crimp are poor! get the crimp set that @V650 recommends and buy some decent connectors like this type https://www.automotiveconnectors.com/connector-terminals.html you can then create crimps and connectors that are as good as or better than OEM You can also buy decent superseal connectors and create a removable watertight connection Superseal Connectors The possibilities are endless with a decent set soldered joints can go brittle due to vibration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlylegend Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 23 hours ago, goat said: The swearing I enjoy. Yes, well, it is a bit of an underestimated art, isn't it ? Very useful in situations like dropping your moto.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaross Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I use cheap ratchet crimpers with interchangeable jaws (and hydraulic crimpers for battery terminals, to be a technical dick) with unsheathed crimps, I then solder and heatshrink the connector and smear in a bit of dielectric grease for good measure. Unless of course waterproofing is required, in which case I use either the crimp and slide type you pick up from electronics suppliers or else straight solder and shrink johnny if I don't care about the disconnect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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