JimJam20 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Hi,What’s everyone’s recommendations for a bit of security when leaving bike outside to nip into a shop. I know if they really want it they’ll take it no matter what. I don’t have large amounts of luggage space, nor do I fancy carrying 22mm chain around the neck I’m guessing my best choice will be an alarmed disc lock? Probably been asked 100 times, my apologies Thanks in advance Quote
Guest Swagman Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Anything which is highly visible will put off the basic thieves, so if you have a alarmed disc lock in a nice bright yellow or something like that it will help, the hardened thief will just lift it in the back of a van. Use your steering lock as well, I have a data tool alarm on mine I know a lot of people don’t like them say they are more trouble than they are worth always going wrong, well mine has been on the bike from new and still works 17 years later. Quote
Tiggie Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Always try and chain it to something. I know its a pain but I've seen far too many cctv videos of Bikes being lifted into a van in seconds Quote
fastbob Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Get a chain and put it in a chain bag strapped to the seat . For goodness sake don't put a chain around your neck . Edited May 18, 2020 by fastbob Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 It depends on whether you have a top box or not. My Honda has a top box and is fitted with a datatool alarm (14 years old and works so far) so I carry a chain and padlock in the top box. That's my working bike so it gets left anywhere, hence the chain and padlock.The Triumph has limited luggage capacity - just a swing arm bag, so I carry an Oxford Alpha XA alarmed disc lock. It's reasonably loud and is pretty robust. I don't leave it anywhere out of sight for long.As said, unless you go for a very heavy chain and attach it to something solid thieves will either cut through any security device or simply remove the whole bike with lock attached in a van. Quote
McBert Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Disk locks can just snap and shear off when forced/ driven off hence the hi visible wire attaching them.Best option would be sturdy lock and chain of possible,Like you say nothing is fool proof if they have time and are determined enough!!. Quote
Tiggie Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 This clip is what i'm talking about, and its only 20 seconds long Quote
TimR Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Disk locks can just snap and shear off when forced/ driven off hence the hi visible wire attaching them.Best option would be sturdy lock and chain of possible,Like you say nothing is fool proof if they have time and are determined enough!!. The hi vis reminder is for the rider to remember the lock is attached so they don't end up on the floor .If your disklock shears by the small amount of force applied of driving off then i would buy a better lock . Quote
Tiggie Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 The hi vis reminder is for the rider to remember the lock is attached so they don't end up on the floor . I have heard the clunk of shame too many times Then the getting off and pretending you are checking something with the wheel and hoping nothings damaged as you try and take the lock off with what feels the entire town looking at you Quote
Mawsley Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 I have heard the clunk of shame too many times Then the getting off and pretending you are checking something with the wheel and hoping nothings damaged as you try and take the lock off with what feels the entire town looking at you Yup.That's why I never bother with disk locks, protection offered is inversely proportional to their PITA factor. I lump two chains out with me whenever I'm planning on leaving it unattended - one or both of them attached to something immovable. Quote
Tankbag Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Tankbag with 1 or 2 massive chains if leaving it for a while (+puts more weight on the front ) plus an alarmed disklock Or Quote
JimJam20 Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 This clip is what i'm talking about, and its only 20 seconds long That’s why I’ve always questioned the disc locks. I’ll probably never leave it for more than 15 minutes but like you say it only takes 20 seconds Quote
dynax Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 I always use my disc lock on the rear wheel and if i'm away from the bike for more than a few minutes i have one of these and a chain Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 This clip is what i'm talking about, and its only 20 seconds long That’s why I’ve always questioned the disc locks. I’ll probably never leave it for more than 15 minutes but like you say it only takes 20 seconds As is often said, nothing will stop a determined thief. But in most cases they look for easy targets so anything that makes difficult for them helps. In that video they were able to lift the front end and wheel the bike into the van. A disc lock or a chain on the rear would have slowed them down considerably. Quote
dynax Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Oh i should have added mine is also alarmed with one of these https://www.motorbikealarm.co.uk/shop/ncs-c-11-talking-motorbike-alarm-and-immobiliser-system/ Quote
Ian Frog Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Oh i should have added mine is also alarmed with one of these https://www.motorbikealarm.co.uk/shop/ncs-c-11-talking-motorbike-alarm-and-immobiliser-system/ Why? CheersIan Quote
dynax Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Oh i should have added mine is also alarmed with one of these https://www.motorbikealarm.co.uk/shop/ncs-c-11-talking-motorbike-alarm-and-immobiliser-system/ Why? CheersIan Because it's the only fekking thing that talks to me when i'm out on the bike Quote
rob m Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Chain everytime attached to a secure object. Alarms are a waste of money, nobody ever responds. Thieves hate restrictions, a good chain would take an angle grinder and a lot of time to get through. An alarm takes a pair of scissors. Quote
JimJam20 Posted May 19, 2020 Author Posted May 19, 2020 I always use my disc lock on the rear wheel and if i'm away from the bike for more than a few minutes i have one of these and a chain Think that’s what I’m going to go for with a decent lock, won’t take much room in a tail bag. Cheers everyone Quote
Throttled Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 I think paying attention to where you park the bike is as important, if not more important than any security. I try to park where I can still see the bike, or park it where CCTV can see it. I would never park somewhere quiet and out of the way, unless I have been staying at a hotel or B&B and then I ask when booking, for somewhere secure to park the bike. In town there are specific places to park bikes that are next to railings to chain the bike to and I try to use them as much as possible. Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 I always use my disc lock on the rear wheel and if i'm away from the bike for more than a few minutes i have one of these and a chain Think that’s what I’m going to go for with a decent lock, won’t take much room in a tail bag. Cheers everyone I have those for my boats. Last year I changed cars and arrived at the club without the key to the lock. It took less than 5 minutes with a very blunt Junior Hacksaw to cut through the cable. They look meaty but the cable inside is very easy to cut. Quote
dynax Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 I always use my disc lock on the rear wheel and if i'm away from the bike for more than a few minutes i have one of these and a chain Think that’s what I’m going to go for with a decent lock, won’t take much room in a tail bag. Cheers everyone I have those for my boats. Last year I changed cars and arrived at the club without the key to the lock. It took less than 5 minutes with a very blunt Junior Hacksaw to cut through the cable. They look meaty but the cable inside is very easy to cut. But it is 5 minutes of someone being within 2 feet of a 120db sounding alarm in my case anyway, and not all alarms can be disabled with a pair of scissors Quote
MikeHorton Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 Saw this article the other day these look a good option.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.motorcyclenews.com/amp/news/2020/may/litelok-moto-108-lightweight-motorcycle-security/ Quote
Six30 Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 nothing if im out during the day, if im on hols i'll disc lock it over night. Quote
Mickly Posted May 20, 2020 Posted May 20, 2020 Nothing required... The mighty Speedtriple is such an animal, it would chew & spit out any thief!! Quote
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