skyrider Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Stu said: Whats the VED on one of those? would it be based on emissions and the insurance, could it be parked up your drive 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, Stu said: Whats the VED on one of those? would it be based on emissions If you can afford to start the company, fill them with fuel and blow them up I recon ved is isn't high on the list of concerns. I be more worried about insurance in the event it crash lands on people, although Boeing don't appear to be overly concerned on that score. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 16 hours ago, Bender said: If you can afford to start the company, fill them with fuel and blow them up I recon ved is isn't high on the list of concerns. I be more worried about insurance in the event it crash lands on people, although Boeing don't appear to be overly concerned on that score. Read in the papers that when they have a launch people who live in the area are evacuated. Presumably house prices are low and insurance unobtainable! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, S-Westerly said: Read in the papers that when they have a launch people who live in the area are evacuated. Presumably house prices are low and insurance unobtainable! Yea roads closed exclusion zone, doubt it affects house prices I would pay more to have that view, now if they start launching every week that could become a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 Boooooooo No Def time or date for sn9 and starlink launch put back, although they attract little attention now Due to rough weather in the recovery area, now targeting no earlier than Wednesday, February 3 at 5:57 a.m. EST for launch of Starlink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Possible launch today before 6pm This is not the official feed, if happens the space x feed is better, but that doesn't go live till just before the launch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie man Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 BOOM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Pie man said: BOOM Yup sn10 is ready to be destroyed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie man Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bender said: Yup sn10 is ready to be destroyed At a cost of 'How Much' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pie man said: At a cost of 'How Much' could say money to burn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Pie man said: At a cost of 'How Much' Estimate for sn8 was couple hundred million Things get cheaper though as you make more. The raptor engines won't be cheap or the flaps and controls but the rest is not so bad, still a big loss, but they expect to have issues, if they are still having issues like this after sn 12 I think they may start getting worried. Looks like a failure to orientate correctly this time, last time was fuel/engine fault, so it's a new problem now, I don't know why they don't flip earlier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 After early abort sn10 made a successful flight and landing 3Rd time lucky. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 Then the Damn thing exploded after I went to bed, how very dare it I'm not surprised though as it has crap legs and lands on its backside with little to nowhere for the engines to vent as it lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 At least it saves putting it away afterwards. Much easier to pick up lots of little bits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 The next one will be out soon, then I think they have already binned a couple because of some changes. Firing all the engines and shutting down what you don't need worked well, shame about it going pop afterwards, it did look like it was leaning slightly after landing, header tank had some big wrinkles in too, landing may have been a bit more of a bump than it looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 It looked like it was on fire when it landed. Did it explode later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, James in Brum said: It looked like it was on fire when it landed. Did it explode later? Yea sat there for a while and went bang, 6sec after they declared it a success Flamey end often looks like it's on fire gas leak apparently. These are just test beds and at this stage it's to be expected, every flight builds a valuable database, the raptor engines appear to be the consistent bug bear, the booster is going to have 36 of them so they need to iron out those issues as they go too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I think these flight tests are brilliant. Better to learn before they are occupied. I worry a bit that so much of the reaching to the stars is in private hands but excited by what they are doing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liveware Problem Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Apparently they have construction underway at various stages all the way up to SN19, I imagine it must be quite a challenge as after every launch the design of each succeeding model will have to be updated with the new data in mind.. maybe now they will give future models less flimsy legs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 Sn11 is now on the launch pad The demise of sn10 was again put down to an engine fault. It ingested helium and lost some power causing a heavy landing, bending a foot, causing a gas leak, buckling the header tank and going boooooooom. Go sn11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 Sn11 did go, it went bang. Not much to see this time as it was really poor visibility, looks like more engine or plumbing issues. Sn15 to roll out next, they scrapped 12 and 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Well that didn't go very well. Even Musk has to run out of money at some point surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 7 hours ago, S-Westerly said: Well that didn't go very well. Even Musk has to run out of money at some point surely? The raptor engines look to be very very powerful but extremely fickle Not a good mix when you put 36 of them on the booster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 Bumpety bump Sn15 is go for launch, Aprx 10.30 tonight, they binned a few as sn15 has lots of improvements. It's had 2 static fire tests and been on the launchpad for a while now, they need to nail it soon. Last few fails have been down to gas leaks. The flip,burn and landing is the stumbling block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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