skyrider Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, James in Brum said: And/or not prioritising the billions it costs. That is short sighted because the economy benefits from these big projects. But then we have not maintained our infrastructure over the past fifteen years let alone made it ready for 15 years time so what do we expect. and do they not think that we have enough troubles here on earth at the moment without looking for it elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 Estimate for Sn8 going bang was into couple hundred million and Musk announced it as a success and they always have a few new prototypes being developed and built with improvements added, I think sn9 or 10 is having heatshield fitted for full re entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Bender said: Estimate for Sn8 going bang was into couple hundred million and Musk announced it as a success and they always have a few new prototypes being developed and built with improvements added, I think sn9 or 10 is having heatshield fitted for full re entry. yep i have one of those on the serow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper74 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Whats the space programme ever done for us !! Velcro, super glue, cardiac devices, drugs, wine, the aqueducts,, peace .... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, skyrider said: and do they not think that we have enough troubles here on earth at the moment without looking for it elsewhere I think it's the troubles here that's driving Musk to move planets, also with the gravity of Mars exploring further a field becomes easier, part of the Human condition is to explore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 It's the same in the usa which was one of the reasons for the appeal of Trump. Too much crumbling infrastructure of basic things like roads, hospitals, railways etc. PFI was a failure as government is hopeless generally at making commercial agreements. Maybe after the pandemic there will be fresh ways of doing things, like the vaccine programme which looks like a success so far. But I won't hold my breath! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper74 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, S-Westerly said: It's the same in the usa which was one of the reasons for the appeal of Trump. Too much crumbling infrastructure of basic things like roads, hospitals, railways etc. PFI was a failure as government is hopeless generally at making commercial agreements. Maybe after the pandemic there will be fresh ways of doing things, like the vaccine programme which looks like a success so far. But I won't hold my breath! The UK infrastructure is like the NHS ... It doesn’t matter how much money you throw at it it will absorb it, get no better, and move on. Fresh ways of doing things ... Sack everyone in the NHS on a contract with a basic value over £100k ... if we really need them we‘ll have them back as contractors at an hourly rate ... Apply the same criteria to Highways England and all other infrastructure groups ... with me chaps ? The problem with fresh ideas is just that .... we don’t like change in the UK ... otherwise we wouldn’t still have Boris and his bunch of murdering clowns ... I’m with you SW .... but i doubt many others would be ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickly Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Trooper74 said: The UK infrastructure is like the NHS ... It doesn’t matter how much money you throw at it it will absorb it, get no better, and move on. Fresh ways of doing things ... Sack everyone in the NHS on a contract with a basic value over £100k ... if we really need them we‘ll have them back as contractors at an hourly rate ... Apply the same criteria to Highways England and all other infrastructure groups ... with me chaps ? The problem with fresh ideas is just that .... we don’t like change in the UK ... otherwise we wouldn’t still have Boris and his bunch of murdering clowns ... I’m with you SW .... but i doubt many others would be ... Yep, do the same for the Military & the Government. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 @Trooper74@ @S-Westerly No politics in space until we have a war. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper74 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mickly said: Yep, do the same for the Military & the Government. Good idea .... In the Armed Forces of the UK, 4 ranks, the highest, 28 people, earn over £100,000 per annum ..The highest being £108,000. According to the Armed Forces Pay Review Body 2019 ... How many non clinical members of the NHS earn over £100,000 i wonder ... Anyway .... back to Starships ... and huge explosions on launch pads ..... Edited January 30, 2021 by Trooper74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I don't get what all the fuss is about. Thunderbird 1 had that technique perfected years ago. And it looked better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 It's easy though when it's held up by string 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bender said: It's easy though when it's held up by string Noooo. There's no string involved. See...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 OK not string probably very fine wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husoi Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 The cost will be covered by a new series of Big Brother Mars and Married at first landing Imagine how many millions they will make out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 A live feed from starship 27 could be a good watch once paranoia, jealousy and space madness sets in. Would be heartbreaking to see a crash landing with crew on-board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynax Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said: I don't get what all the fuss is about. Thunderbird 1 had that technique perfected years ago. And it looked better. Iirc it was Thunderbird 3 that went into space not Thunderbird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, dynax said: Iirc it was Thunderbird 3 that went into space not Thunderbird 1 Yes, but Thunderbird 1 had the vertical landing shown. TB3 must have had the same capability given its launch hangar but so far as I can remember it was never actually shown. Plus TB1 is a lot cooler than TB3. I don't see the point of going to Mars as it was found to be full of nasty fire breathing rock snakes which caused the demise of the Martian mission. I went to see that with my mates for my 5th birthday. Scared the crap out of me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said: Yes, but Thunderbird 1 had the vertical landing shown. TB3 must have had the same capability given its launch hangar but so far as I can remember it was never actually shown. Plus TB1 is a lot cooler than TB3. I don't see the point of going to Mars as it was found to be full of nasty fire breathing rock snakes which caused the demise of the Martian mission. I went to see that with my mates for my 5th birthday. Scared the crap out of me. but thunderbird 2 could carry all the gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, skyrider said: but thunderbird 2 could carry all the gear True, but it couldn't land vertically. In fact they never showed how it got back into its hangar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 TB2 was by far the best vehicle. I wore out a vhs of TB3 getting perilously close to the sun when I was little. I think TB4 confused me because why have it when there is stingray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 Should have thunderbird theme 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 34 minutes ago, Bender said: Should have thunderbird theme always thought cap't scarlet looked dodgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Whats the VED on one of those? would it be based on emissions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 He was my favourite, was like having carry grant as a sci-fi superhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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