bonio Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I'd never heard of PDL until some guy on an MV group on Facebook was going on about it, like it was as magical as unicorn pee. On the website, it's the same message: just use PDL to lube your chain once and you'll never have to lube it or clean it again. Ever. The chain won't even need adjusting. Just spray it on, and your chain transmutes into the One Archetypal Platonic Chain in the Mystical Heaven. Or words to that effect: https://www.profi-products.de/en/pdl-dry-lube/ But is it really that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, bonio said: I'd never heard of PDL until some guy on an MV group on Facebook was going on about it, like it was as magical as unicorn pee. On the website, it's the same message: just use PDL to lube your chain once and you'll never have to lube it or clean it again. Ever. The chain won't even need adjusting. Just spray it on, and your chain transmutes into the One Archetypal Platonic Chain in the Mystical Heaven. Or words to that effect: https://www.profi-products.de/en/pdl-dry-lube/ But is it really that good? I suggest you try it, ride 24k and let us know how it goes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Errrr! no New bike is a shaft too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 What's PDL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said: What's PDL? Profi dry lube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Bender said: Profi dry lube Sounds painful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said: Sounds painful. External use only 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marino Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Recently I did 3500 miles trip, lubed chain before with motul paste and didn’t look at it until return. so 18 days and 3500 miles later, chain was still greasy, not as much at first, but it could go another few thousand. yes weather was good, no rain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husoi Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I've used dry lub when I had my VFR and was very happy with it. Lasts longer (a lot) mess free. stays in place even when you wash the bike. But wasn't PDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I'm looking at both those ideas, the rock oil chain wax I've got isn't great I must be honest. I prefer using an oil in the winter when the weather is cruddy but the rock oil stuff isn't great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I use Wurth dry lube at the moment. It's ok for summer but not up to daily riding in winter conditions unless you treat the chain very frequently. I tried Rock Oil and Motul sprays but didn't get on with them. The PDL is a lot more expensive than Wurths but if it's good I might try it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 @megawatt's used it, but I don't think he comes by this way anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 7 hours ago, bonio said: @megawatt's used it, but I don't think he comes by this way anymore... Last visit was June 8th so I think he pops in every now and then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 What's the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonio Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 Hello @megawatt PDL chain lube. Does it live up to the manufacturer's claims? the PDL® GUARANTEE: Inject and start immediately. - PDL® lubricated chains are maintenance-free! - There is no need to re-tension or clean the chain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I've just ordered some pdl now I've nearly used up the rest of my rockoil dry lube which I'm not a great fan of but didn't want to waste it. I'll report back when I've cleaned the chain up and used it for a while we will see if it's worth the extra cost! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Update on this thread as I've had the PDL on the chain for about a month. Personally I don't think it's any good in the winter. After cleaning the chain with the PDL cleaner/prep thoroughly and applying a Liberal coat of lube I'm now seeing rust in a few places on the chain after 2 applications. I think I will do what I have done previously use gear oil in the winter and try the pdl again in the summer. It is good in terms of drying and not sticky and no crud has stuck to it but not great corrosion wise so I'd imagine I'd start getting tight links over the winter. Therefore I don't think it's worth the money and I'll use it up then maybe use the motul paste when it runs out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) I'm no expert but seemed a fair review of a few products but American Edited December 15, 2021 by MikeHorton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 For O and X ring chains, chain lube is not really about lubrication except in the smallest way imaginable, its mostly about corrosion prevention. So, if it can't manage that then it's worthless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Exactly at least an oil if applied well should prevent this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxrob Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Only problem with fit and forget solutions is exactly this. You FORGET. To look at you chain, sprockets, rear wheel etc and one day you have a problem that regular inspection, clean etc would have flagged up. SOME folk with Scotoilers think they are also a fit and forget, not all i must say. I see this with modern cars too, people just drive and drive till they are surprised by a fault or a crash. On 2 wheels or 4 you need to be aware of your vehicle as well as your surrounding to keep you and others safe. Was this not a BMW idea?? I will stick to a paraffin clean and gear oil lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuRavary Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 15/12/2021 at 12:02, MikeHorton said: I'm no expert but seemed a fair review of a few products but American Sort of, but I’m not sure that he would be too happy about that description as he’s from Canada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 OK I stand corrected North American, sorry for any offence taken by anyone. DuRavary many thanks for correcting me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, linuxrob said: Only problem with fit and forget solutions is exactly this. You FORGET. To look at you chain, sprockets, rear wheel etc and one day you have a problem that regular inspection, clean etc would have flagged up. SOME folk with Scotoilers think they are also a fit and forget, not all i must say. I see this with modern cars too, people just drive and drive till they are surprised by a fault or a crash. On 2 wheels or 4 you need to be aware of your vehicle as well as your surrounding to keep you and others safe. Was this not a BMW idea?? I will stick to a paraffin clean and gear oil lube. Too true, that's how I noticed my metal stuck in the back tyre last month no pressure loss but glad I noticed it. I have a motorrad kettenpflege kit to run paraffin through to clean the chain its quite effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxrob Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, MikeHorton said: Too true, that's how I noticed my metal stuck in the back tyre last month no pressure loss but glad I noticed it. I have a motorrad kettenpflege kit to run paraffin through to clean the chain its quite effective. Nice bit of kit. I run split links in all my chains and remove them for major cleaning, some times i can use the chain brush but if not careful and even with cloths down end up getting muck and paraffin on the concrete standing, am not popular. Use JT X1R chains and their split links. I know i should change them every time but end up using them 3 times at most. On the GS125 I have a dropper bottle of gear oil and petrol to thin it down. Use pure gear oil on the Bandit and Z500's chains as they have x rings and petrol in the mix prob will harden or make them swell. also they are used in the warmer weather but still a little heat up in warm water helps the flow. A drip on each link and roller only every 200 miles (sad i know but it is quite therapeutic). Last bandit set was sort of OK after 43000 miles only changed them as the chain had lost 4 x rings and wanted to go back to a cushioned front sprocket (JTF513RB). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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