The end is Nigh

[Bender]

https://www-visordown-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.visordown.com/news/industry/eu-poised-ban-sale-petrol-motorcycles-2035-could-uk-be-stricter?amp=&amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16265328454768&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.visordown.com%2Fnews%2Findustry%2Feu-poised-ban-sale-petrol-motorcycles-2035-could-uk-be-stricter

 

Buy a big bike with a small tank and get burning. 

[Marino]

2034 i will get last of the petrols motorcycles. Enough to me.

[Davidtav]

56 minutes ago, Marino said:

2034 i will get last of the petrols motorcycles. Enough to me.

Yeah. But the petrol might be difficult to get. And expensive

[skyrider]

34 minutes ago, Davidtav said:

Yeah. But the petrol might be difficult to get. And expensive

you will have to do a mad max and go around draining tanks from crashed vehicles 

[Marino]

2 hours ago, Davidtav said:

Yeah. But the petrol might be difficult to get. And expensive

Will get few hundred litres and use it only on public holidays

[Bender]

2 hours ago, skyrider said:

you will have to do a mad max and go around draining tanks from crashed vehicles 

So you've been north.... 

[Stu]

Bring on electric  

[skyrider]

21 hours ago, Bender said:

So you've been north.... 

i live there 

[fullscreenaging]

I’m going to convert to any EV kicking and screaming!!

 

[S-Westerly]

If I buy an ICE bike at the last moment I should be good until I shuffle off my mortal coil provided the fuel is available.  Alternatively someone could make an EV bike that had decent range and didn't require me to sell my first born child to be able to afford it.

[Liveware Problem]

You'd hope bike manufacturers are spending this time wisely and investing in improving battery technology.

 

Still can you imagine all-electric Harleys? Ducatis? Can't help but feel it really is the beginning of the end, all we'll have left will be electric scooters 

[Bender]

20 minutes ago, Liveware Problem said:

You'd hope bike manufacturers are spending this time wisely and investing in improving battery technology.

 

Still can you imagine all-electric Harleys? Ducatis? Can't help but feel it really is the beginning of the end, all we'll have left will be electric scooters 

Where you been hiding 

 

https://www.harley-davidson.com/gb/en/motorcycles/livewire.html

 

Named after you, almost  

[Liveware Problem]

14 minutes ago, Bender said:

Where you been hiding 

 

https://www.harley-davidson.com/gb/en/motorcycles/livewire.html

 

Named after you, almost  

 

Yes but what are the sales figures like

 

I guess I'm thinking a substantial proportion of bikers just won't want to swap, it's kind of anathema to the whole image, the quiet whine of an electric motor instead of a throbbing v-twin etc.

[Six30]

The con that we are causing global warming and the fooking twats that have fallen for it are to blame for this type of shite .

[manxie49]

Guy who lives near me drives an electric car, or EV as he likes to call it.  He is the most pompous git I've ever known,  he seems to think that come 2030 not just ICE but petrol and diesel is just going to vanish from the face of the earth!  Anyone who believes that, is, IMHO, delusional.  Let's take cars and bikes out of the equation,  for which there are millions on the UK roads alone,  but what about boats, ships,  large and small aircraft, industrial equipment, gardening equipment, home heating and that's before we even consider military requirements,   the list goes on and on.  Unless they totally ban the use of petrol vehicles on our roads then I will continue to use my ICE powered motorcycle.  Getting rid of Petrol and Diesel vehicles will cost trillions of pounds,  where the F_ _ k do some of these holier than thou individuals think all this money is gonna come from, I have no doubt that when tax starts to rise they'll whine about that as well.  And for those who spout on about not having to pay vehicle tax for their EV, really!  Let's see how long that lasts when the government starts losing millions in fuel revenue....Rant over,  deep breath and time for a beer 

[manxie49]

9 hours ago, S-Westerly said:

If I buy an ICE bike at the last moment I should be good until I shuffle off my mortal coil provided the fuel is available.  Alternatively someone could make an EV bike that had decent range and didn't require me to sell my first born child to be able to afford it.

My thoughts exactly

[fullscreenaging]

When the majority are in/on EV’s then the price to charge them will increase to in line, or more expensive than it is to fill your vehicle up now. 

[Bender]

3 hours ago, fullscreenaging said:

When the majority are in/on EV’s then the price to charge them will increase to in line, or more expensive than it is to fill your vehicle up now. 

Think gov is looking to legislate smart charging points so the energy companies can say when there is enough lecy to actually charge them, they are using the excuse of cheap rate electricity Yea of course that's the reason. 

[Essem]

It pretty much costs the same per mile for electric car if charged away from home, particularly motorway, as it does to run a petrol or diesel per mile. Electric car is only cheaper, at the moment, if you charge at home (or make use of some of the free chargers). Home charge can be had for about 4-5p per kWh, motorway can be as much as 50p per kWh. Typically, 60kWh would get you around 200 miles.  Early days, technology will progress rapidly if acceptance of the science continues to increase at current rate.  Necessity is the mother of invention and all that - if someone puts out a battery that can hold 300kWh for same dimensions and lower cost than current tech, it’s game over.

 

Norway already got electric ships and planes, early days though.
 

I’d like to hear how the infrastructure will cope if every bugger hooks up to charge their car each night. That’s a lot of amps down limited cables. I suspect there will be an awful lot of misinformation to have to filter through over the coming years.  Super conductors anyone?

[Bender]

@Essem with that, electric heating and air source heat pumps etc it's going to be interesting I've already got 3 32amp circuits coming out of our house du 

[Pie man]

16 minutes ago, Bender said:

@Essem with that, electric heating and air source heat pumps etc it's going to be interesting I've already got 3 32amp circuits coming out of our house du 

Air Source Heating is the devils witchcraft. 

[S-Westerly]

7 hours ago, Essem said:

It pretty much costs the same per mile for electric car if charged away from home, particularly motorway, as it does to run a petrol or diesel per mile. Electric car is only cheaper, at the moment, if you charge at home (or make use of some of the free chargers). Home charge can be had for about 4-5p per kWh, motorway can be as much as 50p per kWh. Typically, 60kWh would get you around 200 miles.  Early days, technology will progress rapidly if acceptance of the science continues to increase at current rate.  Necessity is the mother of invention and all that - if someone puts out a battery that can hold 300kWh for same dimensions and lower cost than current tech, it’s game over.

 

Norway already got electric ships and planes, early days though.
 

I’d like to hear how the infrastructure will cope if every bugger hooks up to charge their car each night. That’s a lot of amps down limited cables. I suspect there will be an awful lot of misinformation to have to filter through over the coming years.  Super conductors anyone?

Norway might have electric ships but they are pretty well limited to short sea passages or ferries over fjords. Bit different to 10,000 mile voyages. Sailing ships anyone?