Viro disc lock (avoid!!)

[Tiggie]

Was watching a few videos on youtube by the lockpicking lawyer. He is quite entertaining and informative, posts videos reviewing locks, padlocks etc and how easy some are to bypass.

 

Saw one video with a Viro disc lock. Not a brand I've heard of but they are readily available in the UK, Amazon for instance sells them. 

 

Its a 3 minute long video and he breaks the lock in the first 20 seconds without using any specialist tools. I'd avoid them if I were you!! 

 

 

[RAYK47]

i have an Oxford one (not sure which one but it might be the Titan).  In all honesty i dont use it, at home my bike is stored pretty safe so i dont bother, if the bike is stored for long periods then i use my chain.  

[Bender]

Yup that's pretty poor. 

[MikeHorton]

This is on my birthday wishlist as my well used oxford screamer is knackered, they do an alarmed lock too... 

https://image4security.com/products/zovii-zvs14-disc-lock

[Bender]

3 hours ago, MikeHorton said:

This is on my birthday wishlist as my well used oxford screamer is knackered, they do an alarmed lock too... 

https://image4security.com/products/zovii-zvs14-disc-lock

 I have an Oxford squeaker  

[Pie man]

A good closed shoulder or sliding bolt padlock is far better than any type of lock like that in the vid. Disc locks are overrated 

[Fish]

But the sick people who tend to take our bikes don't attempt to pick the lock, they just go straight to the hand held grinder.

[Bender]

8 hours ago, Fish said:

But the sick people who tend to take our bikes don't attempt to pick the lock, they just go straight to the hand held grinder.

Yup, one of the best/worst tools ever invented 

[geofferz]

8 hours ago, Fish said:

But the sick people who tend to take our bikes don't attempt to pick the lock, they just go straight to the hand held grinder.

Yeah but it's better to have a lock that's harder to break than easier, regardless. 

[Bender]

1 minute ago, geofferz said:

Yeah but it's better to have a lock that's harder to break than easier, regardless. 

And better to have any lock than non. 

[Tiggie]

@Fish The lock in the video is that bad it would actually take longer to use a grinder!! No picking or special tools required. In fact you could probably unlock it in full view of anybody and they would just assume you were using the keys 

[billy sugger]

Maybe overkill but I use two chains and a disc lock

[billy sugger]

Now this is what I want

 

https://www.visordown.com/news/product-news/bault-ultimate-home-motorcycle-security

[Ian Frog]

17 minutes ago, billy sugger said:

Now this is what I want

 

https://www.visordown.com/news/product-news/bault-ultimate-home-motorcycle-security

Whilst I really like that I can`t help feeling if I was wealthy enough to afford that I would have more than one bike so more than one vault would be needed and so on !

Cheers

Ian

[MikeHorton]

3 hours ago, billy sugger said:

Maybe overkill but I use two chains and a disc lock

Not at all, even security experts will tell you security is about layering to make it difficult. The sold secure top of the range stuff can be defeated, they normally give a rating of how long to grind through an item etc. If I'm away even in my garage the bike is chained to the ground anchor and 2 disc locks are left on. You just have to make a thief not want to bother and look elsewhere 

[Tiggie]

And ideally don't leave your chain loose or lying on the ground. Makes it harder to use croppers

[billy sugger]

1 minute ago, Tiggie said:

And ideally don't leave your chain loose or lying on the ground. Makes it harder to use croppers

It's wrapped around the wheel and seat on the rear and the forks on the front

[manxie49]

I have an ABUS 8008, one solid bit of kit!  The alarm on it is my only gripe, way too sensitive.  I'm now looking for a decent lock that I can use to lock two bikes together for when we go away.  I was considering the Litelock but the jury is still out,  I seen a video like the one above where they were through it in no time.

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

16 hours ago, manxie49 said:

I have an ABUS 8008, one solid bit of kit!  The alarm on it is my only gripe, way too sensitive.  I'm now looking for a decent lock that I can use to lock two bikes together for when we go away.  I was considering the Litelock but the jury is still out,  I seen a video like the one above where they were through it in no time.

I have an Oxford Nemesis between the bikes, both of which have alarmed disc locks fitted. For the money it's pretty solid and far better than a Litelock. You can buy it with a variety of chain lengths. The lock itself can double up as a disc lock as well which is handy. 

[Tiggie]

I had an Oxford brand alarmed disc lock. It was great at home but at work I could never use the alarm as passing traffic used to set it off regularly 

 

Must of been the location as it didn't happen when on my driveway but would without fail when parked next to the shop

[billy sugger]

1 hour ago, Tiggie said:

I had an Oxford brand alarmed disc lock. It was great at home but at work I could never use the alarm as passing traffic used to set it off regularly 

 

Must of been the location as it didn't happen when on my driveway but would without fail when parked next to the shop

My Oxford one would go off if a raindrop hit it, or if it was windy

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

Strange, my Oxford alarmed disc lock works perfectly. I only get a false alarm if I knock the bike quite hard. I can take the Nemesis chain off between the bikes without it going off. 

[manxie49]

3 hours ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

I have an Oxford Nemesis between the bikes, both of which have alarmed disc locks fitted. For the money it's pretty solid and far better than a Litelock. You can buy it with a variety of chain lengths. The lock itself can double up as a disc lock as well which is handy. 

Is that chain transportable?  I have an Almax chain but it's far too heavy to cart around on the bike, I use if at home only.  TBH I wasn't convinced by the litelock after seeing the you tube vid of it being cut off.

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

1 hour ago, manxie49 said:

Is that chain transportable?  I have an Almax chain but it's far too heavy to cart around on the bike, I use if at home only.  TBH I wasn't convinced by the litelock after seeing the you tube vid of it being cut off.

No it's too heavy to be transportable. I use it to connect the bikes in the garage. It loops through the mains cable coming into the distribution panel so good luck to anyone who tries cutting through that.