fastbob Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jedibiker said: Fair enough, it does make total sense. Never know peoples sense of humour here ha. To me it looked bad hence my reply A prune is a plum that thinks too much . Edited March 19, 2021 by fastbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedibiker Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, fastbob said: A prune is a plum that thinks too much . 100% me that mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Frog Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, jedibiker said: 100% me that mate Careful you could end up with a nickname Lol. Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedibiker Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Ian Frog said: Careful you could end up with a nickname Lol. Cheers Ian I think my royal f**k up would deserve it.. need to redeem myself somehow. And ive been called worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Why is one side cast neat and square and the other side isn't? Unless the polished side is where it's been balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickly Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 43 minutes ago, fastbob said: No need to machine something that doesn't need machining . Remember , this isn't a Brough Superior , it's a consumer product built down to a price to maximize profits . That's why it's got 6mm exhaust studs instead of 8mm . Looks like a crank produced by the night shift at @rennie’s place 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Frog Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Harsh lol Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, jedibiker said: Fair enough, it does make total sense. Never know peoples sense of humour here ha. To me it looked bad hence my reply Just presume everyone is taking the proverbial 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedibiker Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 Dropped on a mint block and also a head. loads of spare bits too.. very lucky. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, jedibiker said: Dropped on a mint block and also a head. loads of spare bits too.. very lucky. Can I suggest that you invest in a set of BRASS nuts for the exhaust studs on this one , £2.25 . . https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brass-Exhaust-Manifold-Nuts-M6-M8-M10-X-1-25-5-16-UNF-/203255357212?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 Edited March 21, 2021 by fastbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, jedibiker said: Edited March 21, 2021 by TimR Realised only block not crank so not relevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Just now, TimR said: If you're using that block i would advise looking at the piston orientation arrows ... Why have they been installed incorrectly ? Oh don't set him off again . They're not connected to the con rods yet . Come on , catch on . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, fastbob said: Oh don't set him off again . They're not connected to the con rods yet . Come on , catch on . See above I realised this as images dont resize instantly on my phone and didn't realise it was just the block itself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedibiker Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 11 hours ago, fastbob said: Can I suggest that you invest in a set of BRASS nuts for the exhaust studs on this one , £2.25 . . https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brass-Exhaust-Manifold-Nuts-M6-M8-M10-X-1-25-5-16-UNF-/203255357212?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 I agree, I did buy 8mm studs and brass nuts incase I went up a size. But I wont get to use those. Il have bits I need to sell on or try and return lol. But yes, will get brass as recommended. cheers. @TimR easy mistake when viewing photos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedibiker Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 Any advice on putting the block back on over the pistons would be great, I have seen a few videos of plastic bottles being used etc and a guy just got the pistons to slide up with a wiggle. at this point I want to take care and not mess up the pistons or liners. cheers @fastbob@TimR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, jedibiker said: Any advice on putting the block back on over the pistons would be great, I have seen a few videos of plastic bottles being used etc and a guy just got the pistons to slide up with a wiggle. at this point I want to take care and not mess up the pistons or liners. cheers @fastbob@TimR Define your process . Dobyou mean all pistons connected to crankshaft and slide them in from bottom as that is like herding cats ..... frustrating and can result in things not going to plan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, TimR said: Define your process . Dobyou mean all pistons connected to crankshaft and slide them in from bottom as that is like herding cats ..... frustrating and can result in things not going to plan . Read up on piston ring gap placements and position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedibiker Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, TimR said: Define your process . Dobyou mean all pistons connected to crankshaft and slide them in from bottom as that is like herding cats ..... frustrating and can result in things not going to plan . Yes. Read up on piston ring gap placements and position. cheers will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Fitting pistons depends to some extent on the design of the barrels . If there is a shallow taper that starts off really wide then they will practically fit themselves . My ER5 almost dropped into place when I was lining it up . The trick is to not rush and let gravity do the work . You need to get right up close to the rings with plenty of light on the job . I would recommend a good read of the Haynes Manual before starting . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Frog Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Might I also suggest a small LED headtorch is really helpful when you would normally find yourself getting in your own light. Like @fastbob I had some GPZ1100 more or less self assemble while I was checking stuff. Maybe the leading taper is a Kawasaki thing? Cheers Ian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Ian Frog said: Might I also suggest a small LED headtorch is really helpful when you would normally find yourself getting in your own light. Like @fastbob I had some GPZ1100 more or less self assemble while I was checking stuff. Maybe the leading taper is a Kawasaki thing? Cheers Ian I think it is . I did a Z1000 ST once with no special tools . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedibiker Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 @fastbob @Ian Frog I know some do seem to taper in, these don't seem to. I had a practice run with old pistons and old block, was fiddly. And that was in ideal conditions. I do have a brilliant head torch that I use all the time. Ive got some plastic ready and tie wraps to make a compressor, but apart from seeing how they were made and added, Ive not seen how he fitted them and got these off. So,, I may just take my time and do it by feel. Using some wooden blocks to hold the block in place as I do it. Waiting for the gaskets to arrive still so basically going over and over the process. The Haynes manual is actually little help as it says you don't really need compressor as the pistons will find their way as such.. ok for the experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Your biggest problem with working with the engine in the frame , especially on a Fazer , is that the engine is far from vertical . The block will be leaning forwards and gravity will not be working in your favour . I would try to block up the centre stand ( if it has one ) and get something under the front end to make the engine level . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedibiker Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, fastbob said: Your biggest problem with working with the engine in the frame , especially on a Fazer , is that the engine is far from vertical . The block will be leaning forwards and gravity will not be working in your favour . I would try to block up the centre stand ( if it has one ) and get something under the front end to make the engine level . The engine is out of the bike mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, jedibiker said: The engine is out of the bike mate Oh well , that's perfect then . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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