Nick the wanderer Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 11 hours ago, RideWithStyles said: hmmmm. what preload and rebound is the shock at now? and are you using all it its travel? is the whole shaft shiney and clean or is there a little/huge ring of dirt on it? if so how far down is it? There is no adjustment in the shocks on those, to gain or lose enough height. Lowering kit is the way to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veracocha Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 11 hours ago, RideWithStyles said: hmmmm. what preload and rebound is the shock at now? and are you using all it its travel? is the whole shaft shiney and clean or is there a little/huge ring of dirt on it? if so how far down is it? As standard, clean as a whistle and 23 plate. An inch will do it so will have to fork out for the Lust Racing kit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the wanderer Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 You could also raise the forks through the clamps 20mm or so, should you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veracocha Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, Nick the wanderer said: You could also raise the forks through the clamps 20mm or so, should you need it. Indeed. 23mm is the drop required when the back has gone down by 25mm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe85 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Dilemma - Titanium headers or not? The full system on my S1000R was obnoxiously loud on a cold start as the engine would overrun at high revs for 30 seconds (which the M1000R also does) before settling down to something more civil. However, the Euro5 bread bin does a great job of making the bike sound like battery powered drill. That, and it looks absolutely hideous. Alternative (and for a similar price) is a aftermarket end can and a carbon bellypan to cover it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickly Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Joe85 said: Dilemma - Titanium headers or not? The full system on my S1000R was obnoxiously loud on a cold start as the engine would overrun at high revs for 30 seconds (which the M1000R also does) before settling down to something more civil. However, the Euro5 bread bin does a great job of making the bike sound like battery powered drill. That, and it looks absolutely hideous. Alternative (and for a similar price) is a aftermarket end can and a carbon bellypan to cover it up. Do it Do it Do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWithStyles Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, veracocha said: As standard, clean as a whistle and 23 plate. An inch will do it so will have to fork out for the Lust Racing kit. have you check it's actually at std? more often than not they aint off the factory floor. so if you or nobodys knows : std fork pre will be 15mm from adjuster top to the cap(large nut below the rings) with the rebound 6. shock is 4 with the rebound at 1+1/4 out. now if the shaft is really clean, is the bumper kissed and smooth or has it leaving an noticeable imprint? if so id recommend you go up a notch on the preload and look at the front forks and see how much travel your using... 2 hours ago, Joe85 said: Dilemma - Titanium headers or not? The full system on my S1000R was obnoxiously loud on a cold start as the engine would overrun at high revs for 30 seconds (which the M1000R also does) before settling down to something more civil. However, the Euro5 bread bin does a great job of making the bike sound like battery powered drill. That, and it looks absolutely hideous. Alternative (and for a similar price) is a aftermarket end can and a carbon bellypan to cover it up. you've only got the bike (and service unlocked) so i wouldn't rush to it if it was me. personally i'd leave it as is due to the "bread bin" is doing nearly all the sound deadening and removing that even to a sports cat can really make it awkwardly antisocial and annoying for any decent trip but each to their own. from the sounds of things you've already made you mind up and don't need the approval nor the poke of encouragement from us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkicker Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) Aspen fuel arrived and I drained the tanks of both DTs and the house standby generator. The missus benefitted by three gallons of free petrol in her fiesta. At £6 a litre, obviously you cannot run anything like a motor vehicle on it full time, it is prohibitively expensive, but I just put a litre in each and ran them for 10 minutes to get them hot and the fuel systems filled up with the new fuel. If I do not touch them again for five years, the fuel will still be good to allow them to immediately fire up. I can report excellent results, running wise. Aspen is very clean burning. The generator was only run a fortnight ago so started second pull, but after draining the tank and running the carb dry, it certainly sounded smoother and quieter with the new fuel in. DTs were as crisp as before. It is far better for your health too. It has 100x less harmful components in it. Oddly, it does not smell very much either and looks like water. Draining your lawnmower, strimmer, chainsaw ect fuel tanks and carbs at the end of the summer and filling them with a litre of aspen fuel is cheap insurance for an easy start next springtime. Carbs and fuel system gaskets do not dry out, so no leaks next year and aspen does not corrode carb bodies, block jets or dissolve plastics and rubbers. Recommended. Edited February 24 by Tinkicker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 7 hours ago, Joe85 said: Dilemma - Titanium headers or not? The full system on my S1000R was obnoxiously loud on a cold start as the engine would overrun at high revs for 30 seconds (which the M1000R also does) before settling down to something more civil. However, the Euro5 bread bin does a great job of making the bike sound like battery powered drill. That, and it looks absolutely hideous. Alternative (and for a similar price) is a aftermarket end can and a carbon bellypan to cover it up. Go for it but will you still have a cat ? I ask because the Guzzi has a hideous cat box and there's a very sexy system without a cat at all but..... In Europe this could be a serious issue. Not interested in being loud just the looks. Otherwise there's a stainless cat cover which at least makes it look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWithStyles Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 the the cat is the sounder deadener naturally so if you minus that when the bike was designed for it to pass EU noise noise and emissions reg you are totally fooking that right up and making it an unbearable, embarrassing right from the off..and good luck getting that mot passable without putting it back to std every prior mot..just from experience from many transport variants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 What I thought. Bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Collen Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Finished bike off, last jobs done, new back tyre, brakes and cush rubbers, found and fixed indicator problem by fitting new earth, and thumbs up to Tinkicker about aspen fuel, that's what I use,so clean and so good for leaving over winter. My husband manages a garden machinery firm, that advise about lawnmowers etc and aspen spot on, thats what he tells all his customers, but of course any who wish to ignore this advise and leave old fuel in machines over winter and then have to pay a big repair bill, be my guest 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Metcalfe Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 23/02/2024 at 23:36, RideWithStyles said: and to relocate! We moved to fully Tunisia in 2021 after having a villa since 2016. Best move we ever made, relaxed way of life, good riding weather all year round, and only just over 2 hours from that big sandy playground called the Sahara. Plus we're only a 10 hour ferry trip to Sicily which then gives us access to the rest of europe either by ferry or just simply ride across Sicily onto mainland Italy then access to just about anywhere our hearts takes us. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Glad you are happy but North Africa isn't my cup of tea. I prefer more northern climes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper74 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 10/02/2024 at 18:55, Simon Davey said: Can you rest your feet up on them? Great moment arms to bend the frame there …… the more they stick out the more damage will occur at the mounting points. Just my experience …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I like to support local retailers whenever I can so I didn't order fork oil online. After all, J&S is just round the corner. But no, they don't stock 10W fork oil, only 5W. Why? Halfrords it is then. But oh dear, they only have 1 500ml bottle in stock, enough for one fork. That's not much good. So it's back to ebay and a litre bottle is on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Davey Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said: I like to support local retailers whenever I can so I didn't order fork oil online. After all, J&S is just round the corner. But no, they don't stock 10W fork oil, only 5W. Why? Halfrords it is then. But oh dear, they only have 1 500ml bottle in stock, enough for one fork. That's not much good. So it's back to ebay and a litre bottle is on the way. Isn't 5W "better" than 10W? I thought it was to do with keeping viscosity under temperatures. A 5W 30 will keep it's viscosity at lower temperatures longer than 10W. I would be heading back to J&S Edited February 25 by Simon Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWithStyles Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) nope....better why you ned to ask.. nope not quite, it varies. thats the rough idea but depends on brand, quality and what is was designed for... Edited February 25 by RideWithStyles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I think fork oil is often bike / suspension specific. According to Moto Guzzi and Ohlins my folks should be 7.5 W Castrol oil. As I'll never be the one dealing with it I don't worry too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWithStyles Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 thats the fluid they put into your bike from the factory...which one of their "grade" is another matter. even if you took it a dealer including if its a multiple brand dealer so its no guarantee that they will use that oil again, as its not the most common or easier to source than say motul but others are available and not to say its crap but most of the bigger players have a cheapest option available for mass production -what goes in the factory is the cheapest. Now guzzi from my knowledge don't quite have the same buying power of volume so generally they go bigger buys in aftermarket versions which is very good. so what does a dealer do, just fill it with what they got there on the shelf thats the nearest to it...thats even if they bother to do it, as most ignore it because even the manual says no (when really the know they should do it or its just one of those who thinks fook it they wont notice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWithStyles Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 13 hours ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said: I like to support local retailers whenever I can so I didn't order fork oil online. After all, J&S is just round the corner. But no, they don't stock 10W fork oil, only 5W. Why? Halfrords it is then. But oh dear, they only have 1 500ml bottle in stock, enough for one fork. That's not much good. So it's back to ebay and a litre bottle is on the way. j and s and sportsbike can just get it delivered to you or the shop it you ask for it, they are good at that. halfords....yes well. you could ask a dealer or garage near you, theyll happly sell shite over the counter....its still money for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I have tinkered with various grades of oil and found what works for me best in that bike. The thing about delivery is that you don't need a lot of it and it isn't expensive so you end up paying half as much again for delivery charges - hence I'd rather buy it over the counter. But if they don't keep it in stock then it's readily available on ebay. Then again, there seems to be inconsistency between what the numbers actually mean anyway. I've ordered some Smith & Allen which I've used before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideWithStyles Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 exactly which is why to assume they are all the same or what you put in is really ideal for what the user wants or needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I went to Smith and Allen's place in Darlington when I had the Multistrada which was a bit of an oil burner. I bought 10 litres for the cost of not much more than a litre of Shell equivalent. They told me they blended lubes etc on the premises and labelled it for various brands except the oil majors such as Shell. As there is no chance whatsoever that I'll be playing with my suspension especially as its electronically adjusted I'll leave it to the guys who do it. I really don't care what brand goes in but I'd prefer the correct weight of oil as that is presumably what Ohlins designed the system to use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie man Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Applied some XCP yesterday and today rode it to work. I have decided to go back to using the bike for work, I hate being in the car, traffic on my commute is horrendous. Obviously as the days get longer and the weather starts to improve, my ride home naturally gets longer 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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