Stu Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Surprised someone hasn't started this already! Thoughts? are we doomed or is it an improvement on BoJo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggie Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Thought I'd get in early to be honest the only politician I've ever felt like voting for was Obama and obviously I couldn't do that I quite like Zelenskyy as well. Think it's just British politicians I can't stand!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Fingers crossed she brings a bit of Thatcher style back to politics. Tell the various unions who are holding all these strikes to get back to work for starters. But we all know none of this will happen, as the country went soft and spineless decades ago! The globe is being screwed by a complete lunatic with Russian blood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiBob Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fish said: Fingers crossed she brings a bit of Thatcher style back to politics. Tell the various unions who are holding all these strikes to get back to work for starters. But we all know none of this will happen, as the country went soft and spineless decades ago! The globe is being screwed by a complete lunatic with Russian blood The last thing we need is a Thatcher clone! .. How about telling corporations to stop ripping off the public and pay workers a decent wage! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 She is nothing more than a sacrificial lamb(?) in waiting. the tories are ruthless and only care about winning. when the next election is on the horizon she will be kicked out and someone else put in place. only remains to be seen how much harm she will do in the meantime. My guess is. A lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Next election is already on the horizon. Country will get some new direction until politics get in the way Putting Labour to shame on the equal opportunity front, when are they going to put a woman forward to take the top job, stammer nearly meets the criteria. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Roll on Diane Abbott as the leader once she learns to count that is 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullscreenaging Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Ahhhh I see. I checked my inbox… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Fish said: Roll on Diane Abbott as the leader once she learns to count that is Roll on or roll off, which is it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I am sure you could say the same to most politicians… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bender said: Next election is already on the horizon. not really. 2024 is aeons away in politics. The question is will Bojo make it 5 out of 5. or will it be someone else who stabs her in the back once she becomes more useful as someone to blame. Edited September 6, 2022 by Gerontious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Cameron and May put party before country which was a disaster. Bozo put himself before everything else. I suspect Truss with follow Cameron and May which will be self-defeating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxie49 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Not a great lover of any politicians personally, yet to see one who has done anything to make my life better .... However, I believe everyone deserves a chance, and TBF she's walking into one of the biggest shit storms this country has ever faced. So I'll hold off opinion till I see how she performs, and what she does to fix, what IMHO is a seriously broken country on so many levels. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Gerontious said: not really. 2024 is aeons away in politics. The question is will Bojo make it 5 out of 5. or will it be someone else who stabs her in the back once she becomes more useful as someone to blame. A week is a long time in politics major decisions that are about to be made now are most definitely going to be made with the one eye on the election. That's the reason they dumped Boris now, to give time to recover from all the crap, had he limped on for another year it would have just dragged on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob m Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, rob m said: Haha on the Ricky theme I'd say Carl Pilkington for PM at least he would be honest and say we are doomed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Bender said: A week is a long time in politics major decisions that are about to be made now are most definitely going to be made with the one eye on the election. in normal times yes. These are not normal times and this is not a normal leader of the Tory party. I doubt she’s even thinking of this time next year, let alone 48 months from now. They'll boot her out before then. She’s nothing more than a stop-gap. I wonder how long it will be before she realises. The clever thing would be to remove any threat from Bojo. end his career as an MP. She’s not clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Gerontious said: in normal times yes. These are not normal times and this is not a normal leader of the Tory party. I doubt she’s even thinking of this time next year, let alone 48 months from now. They'll boot her out before then. She’s nothing more than a stop-gap. I wonder how long it will be before she realises. The clever thing would be to remove any threat from Bojo. end his career as an MP. She’s not clever. People said the same about Major he survived a surprisingly long time. I think anyone shooting to lead the country has a big plan or is either brave / foolish. The problem with a big plan is in todays world it would get watered down and no longer be a big plan. Just the watered down nothing we have now that generally achieves nothin in fear offending someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob m Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) Gone by Easter. One positive will be watching her get dismantled by Starmer at the first PMQs. Edited September 6, 2022 by rob m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, onesea said: People said the same about Major he survived a surprisingly long time. I think anyone shooting to lead the country has a big plan or is either brave / foolish. The problem with a big plan is in todays world it would get watered down and no longer be a big plan. Just the watered down nothing we have now that generally achieves nothin in fear offending someone. Im not sure there is any comparison with John Major. Regardless of his faults he was an accomplished "serious" politician with actual convictions. who had big shoes to fill. none of this applies to Truss. Foolish.. (with a surplus of hubris) - its quite telling that even before she is created PM the drip drip drip has begun. she is already weakened. Leading a party that didn't really want her, voted in by less than half of the membership. and that makes her an even easier target when the time Is right to get rid. How long before the pejorative "remainer" is reapplied? The only people she has to worry about are Murdoch and the right wing press. once they turn against her. (matter of time) the whole house of cards will come crashing down. with a new 'saviour' waiting in the wings. with all the sh!t thrown squarely at her. and then we will have a 'new' Conservative party. and people will be persuaded that this is all her fault and "nothing to do with us guv." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 John major ended up an unmitigated disaster, had the charisma of a wet blanket and presided over black Wednesday and he thought edwina currie was hot enough for a 4yr affair Time will tell how it all goes but listening to the political pundits and advisors they are already on about the next election and saying she needs to be seen to be doing stuff that needs done and try to keep the electioneering out of it for the first year but needs to remember there are only 2yrs to turn things around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob m Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bender said: John major ended up an unmitigated disaster, had the charisma of a wet blanket and presided over black Wednesday and he thought edwina currie was hot enough for a 4yr affair Time will tell how it all goes but listening to the political pundits and advisors they are already on about the next election and saying she needs to be seen to be doing stuff that needs done and try to keep the electioneering out of it for the first year but needs to remember there are only 2yrs to turn things around. John Major? I've suddenly been transported back to 1991! Truss is as thick as shit. I'll be watching what she achieves, although my hopes aren't high. Not that I have any hopes, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 I don't know her to comment if she is thick or not, but its it's never hampered Labour before so she can crack on, history will hold her to account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, rob m said: John Major? I've suddenly been transported back to 1991! Truss is as thick as shit. I'll be watching what she achieves, although my hopes aren't high. Not that I have any hopes, of course. As I know little about her I've done a bit of google Truss worked for Shell, during which time she qualified as a Chartered Management Accountant (ACMA) in 1999. In 2000, Truss was employed by Cable & Wireless and rose to economic director before leaving in 2005.[19] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Well new health secretary looks like she would struggle to walk around the block 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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