Tiggie Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bender said: Well new health secretary looks like she would struggle to walk around the block They are just carrying on a long tradition............ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 It's probably so the fat un fit feel included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiBob Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bender said: Edited September 6, 2022 by KiwiBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Bender said: As I know little about her I've done a bit of google Truss worked for Shell, during which time she qualified as a Chartered Management Accountant (ACMA) in 1999. In 2000, Truss was employed by Cable & Wireless and rose to economic director before leaving in 2005.[19] She went from a northern comp to Oxford to do maths so no she's not thick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Bender said: As I know little about her I've done a bit of google Truss worked for Shell, during which time she qualified as a Chartered Management Accountant (ACMA) in 1999. In 2000, Truss was employed by Cable & Wireless and rose to economic director before leaving in 2005.[19] I wonder if she can answer the question of why shell energy has increased their electricity prices despite claiming that they use 100% renewable electricity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 8 hours ago, Stu said: I wonder if she can answer the question of why shell energy has increased their electricity prices despite claiming that they use 100% renewable electricity I can answer that, cause its all tied to the fecking price of gas ie the most expensive cost, eurupoe has same system and are looking to break the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Bender said: I can answer that, cause its all tied to the fecking price of gas ie the most expensive cost, eurupoe has same system and are looking to break the link. But how? It's supposed to be wind and sun that supplies their electric not gas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 8 hours ago, Stu said: I wonder if she can answer the question of why shell energy has increased their electricity prices despite claiming that they use 100% renewable electricity As someone else said the art of sales is not how much an item costs, it’s about how much people will pay. At this time they can charge what ever they want cause there is not enough to go around. I am guessing your 100% renewable means they generate enough electricity in total but have to rely on gas for peak demands when there is typically less wind and sun. ”The wind speed tends to decrease after sunset because at night the surface of the Earth cools much more rapidly than does the air above the surface. As a result of this difference in cooling ability, it doesn't take long for the ground to become colder than the air above it.” https://wxguys.ssec.wisc.edu/2013/11/18/why-does-the-wind-diminish-after-sunset/#:~:text=The wind speed tends to,than the air above it. Probably why they are looking to borrow energy from electric car battery’s when there are peak loads and charge up later (someone posted about this elsewhere). Plus wind energy is not exactly problem free, or that environmentally friendly… Or cheap: https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-record-low-uk-offshore-wind-cheaper-than-existing-gas-plants-by-2023/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 So it's all false advertising and bullshit then 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Stu said: So it's all false advertising and bullshit then Yes and no, the fact is the world needs to reduce reliance on focal Fuels. Wind and solar energy have a part to play. Ideally renewables should be the only solution, however that isn’t going to happen for along long time. Presently it would probably mean massive changes in lifestyle that we would not accept, so no government is brave enough to do…. They do it by pushing forward though electric cars, just like wind and solar are developing but not quite there yet. Putting cart before the horse? Instead they make daft decisions like stopping selling 125cc motorbikes ICE bikes first probably the cheapest most efficient form of individual transport. Should they not start picking on the most inefficient polluting motorbikes? As with cars stopping the vehicles that use the most energy/ fuel / produce the most CO2 first? Or can they not afford to upset those that can afford to pay the high taxes.. If someone developed a car that could do 100mpg with with less than 50g/km CO2 should that not be allowed as a super low emissions ICE vehicle? It would almost certainly be more environmentally friendly than an EV. On the bright side the uk is leading the world in certain areas: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/ We have a global environmental record our CO2 per capita is low (1/3 of ) and reducing quicker than any other country. I am guessing that is not going to be without some significant cost to the economy. I have never seen that in the press…. Edited September 7, 2022 by onesea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, onesea said: Yes and no, the fact is the world needs to reduce reliance on focal Fuels. Wind and solar energy have a part to play. Ideally renewables should be the only solution, however that isn’t going to happen for along long time. Presently it would probably mean massive changes in lifestyle that we would not accept, so no government is brave enough to do…. They do it by pushing forward though electric cars, just like wind and solar are developing but not quite there yet. Putting cart before the horse? Instead they make daft decisions like stopping selling 125cc motorbikes ICE bikes first probably the cheapest most efficient form of individual transport. Should they not start picking on the most inefficient polluting motorbikes? As with cars stopping the vehicles that use the most energy/ fuel / produce the most CO2 first? Or can they not afford to upset those that can afford to pay the high taxes.. If someone developed a car that could do 100mpg with with less than 50g/km CO2 should that not be allowed as a super low emissions ICE vehicle? It would almost certainly be more environmentally friendly than an EV. On the bright side the uk is leading the world in certain areas: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/ We have a global environmental record our CO2 per capita is low (1/3 of ) and reducing quicker than any other country. I am guessing that is not going to be without some significant cost to the economy. I have never seen that in the press…. You're going too far off track here the point I'm making is they advertise 100% renewable energy when it's not so in essence m bills shouldn't be increasing like they are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Old Git Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Fission Reactors...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Stu said: So it's all false advertising and bullshit then Not if you have your own wind and solar farm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 13 hours ago, Stu said: But how? It's supposed to be wind and sun that supplies their electric not gas! It’s because all electricity is sold appt the same base rate regardless of how it’s generated. Also the Shell that supplies electricity into the home has to buy from the open market it can not buy from the Shell that generates at a discount because they are run as 2 separate companies. The boss of Octopus energy was discussing this a couple of months ago. Their energy is 100% renewable but they can not sell at a reduced cost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie man Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 13 hours ago, onesea said: On the bright side the uk is leading the world in certain areas: Yep, like totally f@cking up a once prosperous country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pie man said: Yep, like totally f@cking up a once prosperous country We've been up n down like a yoyo, nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie man Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bender said: We've been up n down like a yoyo, nothing new. True, more down lately though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Fish said: That's as close as Labour get and I can still see Angela Rayner at the back right 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob m Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 She has inherited a nightmare scenario. Looking back to Thatcher she provided short term solutions to deep seated problems, laying up even bigger problems down the line. I hope Truss doesn't do the same. We need leadership that looks way ahead - long after they've gone from power. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said: She has inherited a nightmare scenario. Looking back to Thatcher she provided short term solutions to deep seated problems, laying up even bigger problems down the line. I hope Truss doesn't do the same. We need leadership that looks way ahead - long after they've gone from power. I be happy if she does what she promised on dualling the a1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husoi Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Bender said: I be happy if she does what she promised on dualling the a1 What's the point if then you're having a wall on the border... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, husoi said: What's the point if then you're having a wall on the border... Send defenders quicker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said: We need leadership that looks way ahead - long after they've gone from power. Well that ain’t going to happen no one is going to vote for short/ medium term hardship for long term gain. Not when people would pay the interest on credit cards to have it all now… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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